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post #42901 of 43363 (permalink) Old 09-02-2019, 01:07 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by RossiOCUK View Post
Never touched PBO, ever. What are the default settings? Just disabled?
No default are just straight "Auto"

Also, I know behaviors are different depending on your Chip SKU, hell sometimes they are even different between just different Chips within the same SKU, so this might not work with everyone, but I definitely have had the most success with this, across my 3900x, and the 2 Clients chips that I am currently optimizing, one is a 3900x, the other is a 3800x, and it seems across all 3 of our Chips, Making sure all PBO settings are set to Auto, PE is set to PE3, CPPC and CPPC Preferred Cores are set to Enabled, and a nice Undervolt, seems to yield the best results, especially on the 0002+ UEFI.

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I'm very pleased with the performance of my 3600X with gupstergs modded bios. Haven't had the time to play around with it yet but maybe there is still some performance to be gained. Thanks a lot for the great work!

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Use flashback.
How should that help? The file seems to be corrupt. I also had this issue. Download again, unzip again and then it should work.
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How should that help? The file seems to be corrupt. I also had this issue. Download again, unzip again and then it should work.
There is no problem with the file imho. EZ flash in BIOS seems to perform additional validation on the file that flashback does not. I wouldn't be surprised if such a Frankenbios did not pass all possible validation methods.

I experienced the same behavior and flashback worked flawlessly.

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How should that help? The file seems to be corrupt. I also had this issue. Download again, unzip again and then it should work.
No, @Targonis is correct, you should be using Flashback to flash these mods. It helps because it fully erases the entire old UEFI and flashes the new, instead allowing fragments from the Old UEFI to be left. You should not be flashing Mods any other way, just because it might work, DOES NOT MEAN you should, there is a reason why the person who make's the mod literally says to use Flashback in his directions. People literally thinks he puts that because he is bored or something...

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No, @Targonis is correct, you should be using Flashback to flash these mods. It helps because it fully erases the entire old UEFI and flashes the new, instead allowing fragments from the Old UEFI to be left. You should not be flashing Mods any other way, just because it might work, DOES NOT MEAN you should, there is a reason why the person who make's the mod literally says to use Flashback in his directions. People literally thinks he puts that because he is bored or something...

Use Flashback.
I'm a little confused here, the BIOS file is 16MB. the flash rom is also 16MB, so how can you write a 16MB file to a 16MB flash rom, and still have data left over? Where is this data held?

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I'm a little confused here, the BIOS file is 16MB. the flash rom is also 16MB, so how can you write a 16MB file to a 16MB flash rom, and still have data left over? Where is this data held?
Just because a file is exactly 16MB does not mean the entire file gets flashed. EZFlashback scans the file and flashes the difference, think about this, otherwise it would be flashing over itself, which obviously wouldn't work out to well. Flashback is self-contained built in functionality to the board, that allows the entire chip to be erased, and then have the file that you downloaded completely flashed to the CMOS, where as the EZ Flash Method scans the file, and flashes the difference, this is why sometimes it says the file isn't correct when its a mod, it knows because it performs analysis on it, where as flashback just looks to see its the correct size, in the correct format, with the correct markers, and then flashes the entire file.

There is a MAJOR difference between the 2 methods, and this is why the people who make the mods tell you to do it that way. Until you have the knowledge to make your own mods and understand how the process works, I wouldn't presume to flash it differently because you assume that the methods are the same, they literally take the time to tell you to use a specific method for a reason. (This part was not addressed specifically to you @Dave001 but to anyone who tries to flash these complicated mods any other way, without having the knowledge of how the process works.)

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Just because a file is exactly 16MB does not mean the entire file gets flashed. EZFlashback scans the file and flashes the difference, think about this, otherwise it would be flashing over itself, which obviously wouldn't work out to well. Flashback is self-contained built in functionality to the board, that allows the entire chip to be erased, and then have the file that you downloaded completely flashed to the CMOS, where as the EZ Flash Method scans the file, and flashes the difference, this is why sometimes it says the file isn't correct when its a mod, it knows because it performs analysis on it, where as flashback just looks to see its the correct size, in the correct format, with the correct markers, and then flashes the entire file.

There is a MAJOR difference between the 2 methods, and this is why the people who make the mods tell you to do it that way. Until you have the knowledge to make your own mods and understand how the process works, I wouldn't presume to flash it differently because you assume that the methods are the same, they literally take the time to tell you to use a specific method for a reason. (This part was not addressed specifically to you @Dave001 but to anyone who tries to flash these complicated mods any other way, without having the knowledge of how the process works.)
I was of the understanding that it did in fact replace all the data on the flash rom, I thought EZflash was stored on the flash rom, but loaded into memory and run from there, which allows it to be over written during a bios update. Maybe I've been wrong all these years.

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I was of the understanding that it did in fact replace all the data on the flash rom, I thought EZflash was stored on the flash rom, but loaded into memory and run from there, which allows it to be over written during a bios update. Maybe I've been wrong all these years.
You may be correct about EZFlash loading into memory prior to flashing, although on ASUS boards specifically I don't believe this is true or we would most likely reboot before flashing like on MSI Boards, but regardless it definitely DOES NOT Erase the entire CMOS before flashing the new UEFI, this is why Flashback is always the preferred method, it is currently the only reliable method provided by Motherboard Manufacturers to erase the entire CMOS and Flash a new UEFI. And honestly it still isn't perfect, but it is FAR better then EZFlash for getting rid of things like corruption, and for flashing Mods, which is why the modding community loves it. EZFlash will work for your normal UEFI flashing, but it does leave fragments of your Prior UEFI's when using this method, a lot of the time that is not an issue, but overtime it can cause issues. For most people who are only flashing a BIOS maybe once a year or less, then thats not a big deal, but for Enthusiasts who are constantly flashing new UEFI's to try out new features, it is best to use the best method available to us, which is BIOS Flashback. Really the only better Method is to get yourself an EPROM Reader and use that to flash your CMOS which will 100 Percent Erase your Chip, and then you can use it to flash a new UEFI on, this truly does 100 Percent erase 100 Percent of the CMOS, but its a pain in the butt because then you have to program in things like your MAC Address and UUID Number before flashing the fresh UEFI, so for most people Flashback is the best way.

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Is there any chance someone enable PCI express 4.0 in a long term?


Not necessary at all now but maybe within 4 years or so
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