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post #91 of 480 (permalink) Old 08-16-2017, 11:16 PM - Thread Starter
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A 500 rpm pci slot blower fan at a naked vcore VRM ( no heatsink )
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IMO at least on this and the taichi......the ability to cool cpu will be first and foremost issue worst case scenario load testing.
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Nice, so again ASRock has got some very good boards for OC with the Taichi / Prof Gaming. thumb.gif

@SavantStrike: Aren't you interested in taking off the heatsinks for a moment to take some shots of the naked VRM?winksmiley02.gif
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Nice, so again ASRock has got some very good boards for OC with the Taichi / Prof Gaming. thumb.gif

@SavantStrike: Aren't you interested in taking off the heatsinks for a moment to take some shots of the naked VRM?winksmiley02.gif

Oh you'd better believe it. I ran out of time yesterday or it would be done already.

I want to confirm MSI's marketing literature where they state the board has 60A power phases. If this is true, it should be a very good board as long as the vrms stay cool.

Looking at the data Chew posted, 60A should offer plenty of headroom. Keeping the chip cool is going to be interesting. Right now I don't have a custom loop, but the 360mm + 240mm design I had planned might not cover a 1920x plus a pair of 1080 TI's.

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I didn't mean to hurry you, just wanted to ask you in general before the board is built into your system. Take the time you need. smile.gif
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AEGSA 1.0.0.3... Isn't the latest version 1.0.0.6.

I guess I don't need it.. I bought the 3000mhz dominator RGB kit because it was on the QVL.. Now I know why.

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Sounds about right. I got 1.25"(31.75mm) measured from the IHS of a mounted CPU to the top of the MSI x399 VRM heatsink. Hopefully that helps some to calculate the clearance required to mount big air on the MSI carbon board.

I had to mutilate the Asatek adapter that came with the 1950x with a dremel to fit an otherwise incompatible Cooler Master LM120 AIO on there. Aside from that everything has been pretty smooth sailing with the MSI board. Temps are 39c @ 3800Mhz and 1.3v according to HWMonitor. This is with 120mm push pull fans running 100% on the inadequate 120mm radiator. For obvious reasons I shan't be pushing it much until I get the open loop setup. Seems I'm stuck at 2933Mhz with the Corsair 4x16GB Vengeance LED 3200Mhz kit...at least with current BIOS(AGESA 1.0.0.3).

Oddly AMD-V was disabled in BIOS out of the box and MSI forgot to include a switch to control it. It still wasn't included as of BIOS 1.3, but a couple days of nagging and they rolled out a beta(1.43) which appears to have addressed the issue. Quite the glaring oversight, but they fixed it pretty quickly.

There is beta 1.43 bios at the MSI forums

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=290931.msg1644738#msg1644738
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I didn't mean to hurry you, just wanted to ask you in general before the board is built into your system. Take the time you need. smile.gif

MSI's baord just got in, the carbon pro gaming. It uses 10x IR3555, along with an IR35201 and five IR3599 doublers. So it's 5 phases doubled to 10 for the core. The SoC uses three phases IR3555. So yea, 60A power stages, not sure on the inductors.

I do want to add, their VRM heatsink design actually does try and maximize surface area, but it looks more inclined to do a solid job in an actual case with some type of airflow. .

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1003+ is latest agesa for fredtheripper

The problem with the internet today is the lack of accountability.

On pc forums User A says no its safe costs users B,C an D $600 to find out he was wrong. User A gets off scot free.

On the race car forums it is no different except $ amount. User A says turn the boost up to 26lbs. User B,C and D lifted a head gasket,cracked a piston ring, melted a piston...or worse just sent a rod through block due to detonation. $3k in damages. User A gets off scot free.

Avoid the A's they will put a hole in your wallet.
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Soon as you toss some load @ the chip the peak frequency you can actually OC to versus the Stable non throttle speed is a larger gap than ryzen 5/7.

It really is just a matter of cooling cpu. Double thick 360mm or 480mm rad setups dedicated just to cpu loop will most likely be common practice to max out chip.

Chips require roughly .100 less than R5/7.

DR 4x16g currently from what I have noticed so far is a lesser evil than 8gb X 8.

3400 c16 b die can do 3200 c14 with 2T.

It also booted 3333 c16 xmp however not a fan of c16 so i dialed them down and did not have much time to fool with it.

The problem with the internet today is the lack of accountability.

On pc forums User A says no its safe costs users B,C an D $600 to find out he was wrong. User A gets off scot free.

On the race car forums it is no different except $ amount. User A says turn the boost up to 26lbs. User B,C and D lifted a head gasket,cracked a piston ring, melted a piston...or worse just sent a rod through block due to detonation. $3k in damages. User A gets off scot free.

Avoid the A's they will put a hole in your wallet.
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