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That picture is pretty awesome to take a look at the VRMs. smile.gif
I'd interpret the design like that:

In detail I'd expect the powIRstages to be IR3555 parts, the IR35201 running in 5+X mode and five more IR3599 on the backside.

Besides MSI the other manufacturers have their product pages online by now:

ASRock Fatil1ty X399 Professional Gaming
ASRock X399 Taichi
-> 8x IR3555, most likely driven by one IR35201 running in 8+0 mode for CPU VCC.

Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7
Again 8 phases equipped with powIRstages, driven by a IR controller. Seems to only have two Soc phases.

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Gigabyte supposedly will be using 8 phase IR3553 per Gamers Nexus

On the picture on their website you can see that the powIRstages used aren't IR3553 packages.
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Since Zenith has the same power delivery with the K7 (8 phases), do you believe the latter being a good option for overclocking, or better buy the MSI with the 13 phases?
However the Zenith & Prime are coming with heatpipes and fan under the top cover to cool the VRMs. :/
But does the Zenith worth the +55% pricetag over the MSI?
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Just wished Asrock would bring their OC series to AM4 as well... that would kick ass. biggrin.gif
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Just wished Asrock would bring their OC series to AM4 as well... that would kick ass. biggrin.gif

Had the Z170 OC formula. What a beast. Put the 6700K on it. Set the overclock to 4.9Ghz from the profile it had and didn't looked back for a year
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Since Zenith has the same power delivery with the K7 (8 phases), do you believe the latter being a good option for overclocking, or better buy the MSI with the 13 phases?

MSI's 13 phases aren't 13 VCore phases for real.
Just 10 of them seem to be for VCore, also they are driven by a IR35201 so it's just 5 real phases doubled up to 10 in total.
Still ten phases with IR3555 / IR3556 parts would be capable of more theoretical output current than 8 pahses with IR3555 but again the heatsink might have a huge impact on the actual maximum power output.

So at the moment it's very hard to tell what design is worth its money.
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A look onto the second heatsink with its fan of the Zenith:

X399Zenith.th.jpg

-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIiLPgoUYGw
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MSI's 13 phases aren't 13 VCore phases for real.
Just 10 of them seem to be for VCore, also they are driven by a IR35201 so it's just 5 real phases doubled up to 10 in total.
Still ten phases with IR3555 / IR3556 parts would be capable of more theoretical output current than 8 pahses with IR3555 but again the heatsink might have a huge impact on the actual maximum power output.

So at the moment it's very hard to tell what design is worth its money.

Given the design of the cooler, surely we would be able to plug a small 60mm fan there to provide direct cooling yes?
Personally I do like the Carbon. Is ~$240/£180 cheaper in here UK compared to the Zenith ($445/£340 vs $683/£520) while it doesn't shy off the main specs.

And MSI has showed both in X370 and X299 platforms has very good product with great performance overall.

What's your thought?


(had the MSI X79 GD45, the cheapest of them all, and was clocking the 4820K @ 5Ghz without sweat, and the 4930K @ 4.6Ghz, what a great board it was)
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Given the design of the cooler, surely we would be able to plug a small 60mm fan there to provide direct cooling yes?

Yeah it looks like it would be possible.
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And MSI has showed both in X370 and X299 platforms has very good product with great performance overall.

Oh they've got some X299 black sheeps and the X370 XPower has also got its downsides.
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What's your thought?

I wouldn't become an early adopter at the moment. tongue.gif
But seriously: I'd love to help you but right now I can't tell if you'd regret buying the MSI board, even guessing about that is hard. frown.gif
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Yeah it looks like it would be possible.
Oh they've got some X299 black sheeps and the X370 XPower has also got its downsides.
I wouldn't become an early adopter at the moment. tongue.gif
But seriously: I'd love to help you but right now I can't tell if you'd regret buying the MSI board, even guessing about that is hard. frown.gif

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gigabyte's X399 gaming 7 uses IR3556,IR35201, and the same 76A chokes as X299

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