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post #1601 of 1641 (permalink) Old 10-13-2019, 05:13 AM
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post #1602 of 1641 (permalink) Old 10-17-2019, 12:33 PM
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Alright, I've spent the last hour or so searching through this thread for what I want to do, but can't find anything on it.

I'm wanting to take my current Bios and change the Max CPU Boost Clock Override in the AI Tweaker -> PBO section up from 200 to 300. It looks like there is a text string I could change, but I suspect that those values would only change the prompts in the text in the bios menu and not the values that the mobo feeds to the processor. What are the steps I'd need to do to make this change or are we still at a point that this hasn't been worked out yet on the latest BIOS.

ASUS ROG Strix X470-F Gaming.
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post #1603 of 1641 (permalink) Old 10-21-2019, 06:58 AM
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Please see the above me and a few others are looking for information that would let us to update this laptops bios to support 2 and 3rd gen Ryzen 65W cpus. The bios is locked like all asus bios but I do have a spi programmer and have since unlocked the cpu/ram settings as well as just about every other setting in the bios I have also done the microcode update but it did not change or add the latest AGESA to it. Any help in determining what we would need to update in this bios would be a great help and I can provide a copy of my current modded bios if that would be of any help as well.

Thanks in advance.
Hey guys - I'll second this request - happy to help with that. For me the main goal would be unlocking newer Ryzen CPUs. GL702ZC stock bios allows only 1800x max and I wouldn't hold my breath for Asus future updates

Btw. - since I'm new here - can you please point me to some beginner's resources? I have some dev background so maybe I'd be able to investigate this myself. Which SPI programmer would you recommend?

Thank you!

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post #1604 of 1641 (permalink) Old 10-23-2019, 01:11 PM
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I am using the one in the link below and that clip will save your sanity. Before you do anything make sure you get a 100% verified backup of your bios.

CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer + SOIC8 SOP8 Clip Adapter Module

https://www.amazon.com/AiTrip-CH341A...a-819209743388
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post #1605 of 1641 (permalink) Old 10-24-2019, 02:54 AM
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I am using the one in the link below and that clip will save your sanity. Before you do anything make sure you get a 100% verified backup of your bios.

CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer + SOIC8 SOP8 Clip Adapter Module

https://www.amazon.com/AiTrip-CH341A...a-819209743388
Thank you very much. Can you point me to some must read resources?

For those wondering if Asus will support newer Ryzens for this model I got their response today and they are not planning to upgrade mobile mobos. I bought this laptop because I knew the CPU is not soldered to MB so I could potentially upgrade it in the future and the laptop wasn't really cheap. Desktop boards with the same chipset were updated by them.
I'm really disappointed with their response and this is my last purchase from this company. AMD washed their hands too saying it's up to vendor (sort of expected anyway)


Without Bios upgrade there are 2 options only:
- Upgrade to Ryzen 1800x without any huge performance gain
- Upgrade to 1920X and watch the laptop burning


I downloaded Bioses for desktop boards Prime B350 Plus and Prime B350M-A and I can see some AGESA related modules in there but at the moment I need to read how it actually works.

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Update from me - I was able to replace microcodes with UBU and prepare a new Bios based on v. 306. Unfortunately I'm not able to create bios backup with SPI programmer because god damn Asus placed Bios chip underneath heat sink. So this means unscrewing heat sink and repasting everything just to make a backup copy in case flashing goes wrong
Do I really need a backup of Bios? Can the microcodes update brick MB if something is broken?
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They released a new BIOS for some ASUS boards version 5222 2019/10/25 - Improve system stability. The AGESA and SMU are the same seems like a very minor change so I think I will skip it and wait for new AGESA unless anyone has noticed increased stability at higher FCLK or anything useful?
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Update from me - I was able to replace microcodes with UBU and prepare a new Bios based on v. 306. Unfortunately I'm not able to create bios backup with SPI programmer because god damn Asus placed Bios chip underneath heat sink. So this means unscrewing heat sink and repasting everything just to make a backup copy in case flashing goes wrong
Do I really need a backup of Bios? Can the microcodes update brick MB if something is broken?
Do not flash this bios with out a spi backup it will go wrong I know from experience also you have to flash all bios's on this laptop with an spi programmer. Now i have some good news and bad the Bios is not under the heat sync its on the other side of the motherboard and you can actually remove the motherboard with out taking the heat sync off. Let me know if you want the details for doing it this way.
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Do not flash this bios with out a spi backup it will go wrong I know from experience also you have to flash all bios's on this laptop with an spi programmer. Now i have some good news and bad the Bios is not under the heat sync its on the other side of the motherboard and you can actually remove the motherboard with out taking the heat sync off. Let me know if you want the details for doing it this way.
Ok, I'm pretty sure I saw it underneath the GPU heat sink part, but I might be wrong
Any details would be really apprieciated.
Some more questions:
- How far did you go with modding? If you have any pictures showing Bios chip it would be really cool.
- Few pages ago you mentioned you have unlocked Bios. What is exactly unlocked there?
- Is it 25XXX or 24XXX EPROM ?
- Did you try to patch CPU microcodes with most recent UBU and flash it? Did it work?
- Were you able to lunch Windows with microcodes updated? Any BSODs ?
- Have you tried the modded Bios with Ryzen 3rd gen CPU ?

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post #1610 of 1641 (permalink) Old 10-30-2019, 08:14 AM
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Also - does anybody know if PMU update is required step to handle newer Ryzens?
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