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oh my god, they really introduced the fan bug that have plagued the Ryzen (non threadripper) mobos?

Be careful! because if its the exact same bug.. sometimes the fans will STOP spinning for no reason at all, causing the cpu to overheat and shutdown. Its related to the "smart fan" section of the bios.
I reinstalled AISuite and the fan issue was resolved, at least for now... I will keep an eye on it though, sp thanks for the heads-up!

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OK. So I did some testing and it turns out that the problem wasn't with Prime95 as OCCTP threw errors too... It's just that 4.066GHz just wasn't stable on v503... >
I tried going down in as small of steps as I could and as things stand, with the current BIOS, I can't clock any higher than 4.0GHz. Not even 4.025, which would either result in Core 6 (Threads #13 and #14) throwing fatal errors in P95 or full-on lockup...

Oddly, on Cinebench I scored 1731, which is two points higher than at 4.166...
Just upgraded to 503.. Lets see how it goes.. so far so good I think.. temps seems similar.. will start stress testing tomorrow.

But the memory only required minimal training after I set the timings.

As for your cinebench. Almost feels like your threadripper was somehow throttling either by temps or power?
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Just upgraded to 503.. Lets see how it goes.. so far so good I think.. temps seems similar.. will start stress testing tomorrow.

But the memory only required minimal training after I set the timings.

As for your cinebench. Almost feels like your threadripper was somehow throttling either by temps or power?
Might be... I'll have to do some more testing. I haven't noticed much difference with temps. I hit ~85C at full load, but it's within the same range whether I'm at 4.0 or 4.166, +/- 1-2 degrees...

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Might be... I'll have to do some more testing. I haven't noticed much difference with temps. I hit ~85C at full load, but it's within the same range whether I'm at 4.0 or 4.166, +/- 1-2 degrees...
Please tell me those temps are of TJunction and no Tcore.

Even at 1.25V on 16 cores I never reach above 70C Tcore


Your Threadripper seems to be way too hot for being just a 8core one.


In the other hand, ran a few times cinebench.

When its unstable it instantly freezes when temps go above 70C.
But I ran 3.95Ghz at 1.22V and seems fine (which seems a tad better than 407, which was unstable at 1.22V )
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Please tell me those temps are of TJunction and no Tcore.

Even at 1.25V on 16 cores I never reach above 70C Tcore


Your Threadripper seems to be way too hot for being just a 8core one.


In the other hand, ran a few times cinebench.

When its unstable it instantly freezes when temps go above 70C.
But I ran 3.95Ghz at 1.22V and seems fine (which seems a tad better than 407, which was unstable at 1.22V )
I'll try dropping my voltage at 4.0GHz and see if I can get my temps lower. I suppose I got things stable at 4.125 at 1.35V and never bothered to drop them...

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OK. So I managed to drop down to 1.25V at 4.0 with no loss in stability! Temps don't go above ~72C, which is a HUGE improvement! Oddly, my idle temps haven't changed at all (still jumps around between 35-47C)... Though that might just be because I have my fan profile set to as quiet as possible...
After dropping the voltage, I tried to see if I can get higher clock speeds (hoping it was temperature that was causing the crashes), but unfortunately I still can't clock any higher than 4.0, not even a tiny bit more...
For some reason I'm still getting errors in P95 on threads #13 and #14 (Core 6), but the system doesn't lock up, so that's good I guess... I'll probably keep tinkering to see if I can get fully stable on all eight cores while praying that Asus will get their s--- together and release a proper BIOS for us PRIME users...

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OK. So I managed to drop down to 1.25V at 4.0 with no loss in stability! Temps don't go above ~72C, which is a HUGE improvement! Oddly, my idle temps haven't changed at all (still jumps around between 35-47C)... Though that might just be because I have my fan profile set to as quiet as possible...
After dropping the voltage, I tried to see if I can get higher clock speeds (hoping it was temperature that was causing the crashes), but unfortunately I still can't clock any higher than 4.0, not even a tiny bit more...
For some reason I'm still getting errors in P95 on threads #13 and #14 (Core 6), but the system doesn't lock up, so that's good I guess... I'll probably keep tinkering to see if I can get fully stable on all eight cores while praying that Asus will get their s--- together and release a proper BIOS for us PRIME users...
Check your SOC voltages too.


Maybe an expert can pipe in, @gupsterg helped me a lot.
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Check your SOC voltages too.


Maybe an expert can pipe in, @gupsterg helped me a lot.
Right now I have SOC voltage set to Auto. What voltages are you running?

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Right now I have SOC voltage set to Auto. What voltages are you running?
1.093, note that I had to go this high to keep my memories stable (Hynix M die)

*edit*
Seems 503 is very stable for me.
I havent had a single "memory training" loop like the ones I had in 403, 407.

I wonder if 503 also had updates to AGESA but not mentioned in the logs.

HWinfo reports:

SMU Firmware Revision: 4.25.92.0
Microcode Update Revision: 8001129
AMD AGESA Version: ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2-0.0.6.0


If I remember correctly, 403 and 407 did show 2.0.0.4.0 on AGESA version.

*edit 2*
I was wrong, the older version was also AGESA 2.0.0.6.0

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Updating.. 503 is very stable for me, zero memory training loops after 4 days and half.

No crashes, no weird errors.

So 503 is a winner for me so far.
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