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post #1081 of 1291 (permalink) Old 10-25-2018, 03:32 AM
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@elmor , I will be having the Hyper kits delivered to me soon enough I will be able to test more easily with them as now I will be able to test against a PCI-e x4 3.0 on the Hero as well -- am away for a bit though (~15d) so this will take a back seat since I don't have access to the machine atm.

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post #1082 of 1291 (permalink) Old 10-26-2018, 03:44 AM
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ZE 1601 https://www.mediafire.com/file/yx1f7...-1601.zip/file

- No ACPI WMI yet
- Fixes some USB devices not working or stalling at B4
- Fixes "AMD CBS item not resetting after Clear CMOS"
- If we're lucky it might fix more things, didn't have time to try it yet

Quote: Originally Posted by dejanh View Post
2x 32GB kit will work just as well. Not sure if it will be easier to find. I posted the part code some posts back.
Finally located one kit and verified it's unstable. But I won't have time to keep testing until Monday.

I have however come up with a few suspects have been changed that along with 2990WX support. Can you see if any of the below makes your memory stable again?

Extreme Tweaker\DRAM Timing Control\
- ProcODT = 60ohm (can also try 53.3ohm)
- MemCadBusClkDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCsOdtStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCkeStren = 24 ohm

AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\Phy Configuration\PMU Training
- DFE Read Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
- FFE Write Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
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Quote: Originally Posted by elmor View Post
ZE 1601 https://www.mediafire.com/file/yx1f7...-1601.zip/file

- No ACPI WMI yet
- Fixes some USB devices not working or stalling at B4
- Fixes "AMD CBS item not resetting after Clear CMOS"
- If we're lucky it might fix more things, didn't have time to try it yet



Finally located one kit and verified it's unstable. But I won't have time to keep testing until Monday.

I have however come up with a few suspects have been changed that along with 2990WX support. Can you see if any of the below makes your memory stable again?

Extreme Tweaker\DRAM Timing Control\
- ProcODT = 60ohm (can also try 53.3ohm)
- MemCadBusClkDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCsOdtStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCkeStren = 24 ohm

AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\Phy Configuration\PMU Training
- DFE Read Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
- FFE Write Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)

Going to give it a try in a few minutes. I know we rag on you Elmor but thank you a lot for trying to help us. ASRock wouldn't even respond to my tickets when I complained to them so the fact we at least have someone who is willing to at least listen and even tries to find solutions for us makes me feel a lot better.


Tried both ProcODT and all settings below. Also tried with and without the DFE enabled/disabled. Also boosted the SOC voltage to 1.05 and ddr4 volts to 1.4v just to see. Initially with just the changes it restarted and booted but it wasn't a "cold" boot. Went to mem test and failed with hundreds of errors within 5 minutes. Hit escape and it cold rebooted I am guessing due to the memory errors. After that all settings I tried it would boot from a cold boot and fail to post and ask me to try to fix it before continuing.

Extreme Tweaker\DRAM Timing Control\
- ProcODT = 60ohm (can also try 53.3ohm)
- MemCadBusClkDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCsOdtStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCkeStren = 24 ohm

AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\Phy Configuration\PMU Training
- DFE Read Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
- FFE Write Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled

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post #1084 of 1291 (permalink) Old 10-26-2018, 10:19 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by elmor View Post
ZE 1601 https://www.mediafire.com/file/yx1f7...-1601.zip/file

- No ACPI WMI yet
- Fixes some USB devices not working or stalling at B4
- Fixes "AMD CBS item not resetting after Clear CMOS"
- If we're lucky it might fix more things, didn't have time to try it yet



Finally located one kit and verified it's unstable. But I won't have time to keep testing until Monday.

I have however come up with a few suspects have been changed that along with 2990WX support. Can you see if any of the below makes your memory stable again?

Extreme Tweaker\DRAM Timing Control\
- ProcODT = 60ohm (can also try 53.3ohm)
- MemCadBusClkDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCsOdtStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCkeStren = 24 ohm

AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\Phy Configuration\PMU Training
- DFE Read Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
- FFE Write Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
I am going to try these settings over the weekend and report back. Any particular order you want me to do the test in? One setting at a time or all at once? Any groups of settings to change together?
Quote: Originally Posted by Jerky_san View Post
Going to give it a try in a few minutes. I know we rag on you Elmor but thank you a lot for trying to help us. ASRock wouldn't even respond to my tickets when I complained to them so the fact we at least have someone who is willing to at least listen and even tries to find solutions for us makes me feel a lot better.


Tried both ProcODT and all settings below. Also tried with and without the DFE enabled/disabled. Also boosted the SOC voltage to 1.05 and ddr4 volts to 1.4v just to see. Initially with just the changes it restarted and booted but it wasn't a "cold" boot. Went to mem test and failed with hundreds of errors within 5 minutes. Hit escape and it cold rebooted I am guessing due to the memory errors. After that all settings I tried it would boot from a cold boot and fail to post and ask me to try to fix it before continuing.

Extreme Tweaker\DRAM Timing Control\
- ProcODT = 60ohm (can also try 53.3ohm)
- MemCadBusClkDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCsOdtStren = 24 ohm
- MemCadBusCkeStren = 24 ohm

AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\Phy Configuration\PMU Training
- DFE Read Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled)
- FFE Write Training = Enabled (can also try Disabled
That's discouraging. I will try the settings anyway just to add to this thread but I expect the same net result. Better back-up my OS before I mess around with this though...I am intending to try this with the newest UEFI 1601. What UEFI did you use?

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post #1085 of 1291 (permalink) Old 10-29-2018, 09:28 AM
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@elmor - Quick update that I did not get a chance to do any testing yet. I had a number of urgent things come up during the weekend that are still dragging on so I will get back to this as soon as my schedule clears up a bit. I expect a few days.
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@elmor - Quick update that I did not get a chance to do any testing yet. I had a number of urgent things come up during the weekend that are still dragging on so I will get back to this as soon as my schedule clears up a bit. I expect a few days.
Yes, still testing.
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https://www.overclock.net/forum/27694588-post38965.html

I'm really sorry guys, but the will be no Asus support from me anymore.

I did not manage to get my system stable with F4-3200C14Q-64GTZR @ 3200 MHz, but I did get the 1003 settings. At least they should provide a starting point:

RttNom = Off
RttWr = 80 ohm
RttPark = 240 ohm

AddrCmdSetup = 63
CsOdtSetup = 63
CkeSetup = 11

MemCadBusClkDrvStren = 24 ohm
MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren = 24 ohm
MemCadBusCsOdtStren = 24 ohm
MemCadBusCkeStren = 24 ohm
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post #1088 of 1291 (permalink) Old 10-31-2018, 11:01 AM
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I am shooken, sadden, and rattled. But I hope only the best for you, your efforts have been appreciated and the ecosystem is better off because of you.

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Sad to hear this @elmor Thank you for all your hard work.
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Zenith is a dead platform with this, basically. Still too many issues. Thank you for your support, @elmor !

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