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post #171 of 196 (permalink) Old 07-30-2019, 01:31 PM
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This is really interesting. Sitting on the B450M-PRO (which is actually quite similar) and running into the EDC limit on my 2700X is what holds back performance the most.

Going from a 2700X to a 3700X feels like a waste... but if the 4000 series brings the same improvement as the 1000 to 2000 jump or brings good sales on the 3700X, this could be really interesting in a year's time (if I manage to not be annoyed by the EDC limit until then).

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post #172 of 196 (permalink) Old 07-30-2019, 11:27 PM
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I think 4000 series will have higher clocks for sure and still great power reductions. Not dissapointed in the 3700x at all though I think the extra money was worth it.

AMD released a new chipset driver which seems to have tweaked Precision boost a little bit and single threaded scores have gone up. The Ryzen balanced power plan now performs better than before. The CPU is boosting on a few cores to the advertised boost value and two cores are occasionally hitting 4425mhz. (I have it set for +100mhz PB in BIOS but my CPU just can't do it!).

SuperPi top score was Ryzen High performance power plan second score is Ryzen balanced. (My voltages are -0.062v less than the values shown in image so about 1.43v during boost)
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Hey Guys, I have the Gskill Flare X 3200. 4x8gb (two kits)
I've tested with just using two sticks as well.

I cannot for the life of me get it to run at 3200mhz. even at higher clocks and vdimm vsoc, i would fail aida64 in a few minutes.
The only stable clocks I can get is 3133mhz 14-14-14-34-48 1T.


Is this a board issue? or a Ryzen 2700x issue?

Would a new board or a new 3700x help me with these memory issues?


Thanks, I read in this post and elsewhere that 3200 on this board is a pipe dream.
I was thinking about the new unreleased MSI b450m Mortar Max.
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post #174 of 196 (permalink) Old 08-04-2019, 01:41 PM
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With a 2700x the most I could get was 3000mhz with 2x16GB dual rank. Anything higher would instantly error.

With the 3700x I am completely stable at 3200 so yes it does seem to help but nothing is garanteed. If it was me I would save the motherboard money and use it to upgrade to 3700x the gains are a lot higher even if you can't improve your RAM clock.
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post #175 of 196 (permalink) Old 08-05-2019, 12:42 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by sideeffect View Post
With a 2700x the most I could get was 3000mhz with 2x16GB dual rank. Anything higher would instantly error.

With the 3700x I am completely stable at 3200 so yes it does seem to help but nothing is garanteed. If it was me I would save the motherboard money and use it to upgrade to 3700x the gains are a lot higher even if you can't improve your RAM clock.
Well then, I am picking up a 3700x today. We will see if it helps my ram get better speeds. I will report back.
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Cool. Good luck.

The 5204 BIOS is not yet out which is supposed to help with memory compatibility. It should be very soon because the 4 series got it on Friday. Usually we're 1 week behind.

5007 is buggy but can be worked around.

Set the fclk frequency manually to half the RAM frequency (auto is buggy)

If your system doesn't boot with the triple beeps because you changed a RAM timing just go into BIOS set a lower frequency and fclk let it boot then set them back to desired frequency. For example I will set 3000/1500 to get a boot then 3200/1600. (Probably a RAM training issue)

TRFC2 and 4 values don't seem to be generated automatically from TRFC. At least Ryzen master says not. I have been getting the values from Dram calculator and adding them in manually.

CLDO VDDG voltage is set to 1.1v when running 3200 but it doesn't need to be (maybe need for 3600). I run VDDG at 0.900 and SOC at 1v for 3200 but just something to play with later.
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First impressions with 3700x

Reporting back to say that I think my 4x8GB FlareX kit is stable at 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34-48-1T 1.35v.
Previously, I'd error out of web browsing and fail Aida in under 10 minutes.

I am so glad that you mentioned memory training. I had no idea what it was. When I first booted up, I tried 1866 straight to 3200mhz.
I got the dreaded triple beep. At first I didnt know what was going on, but I am glad that I refereed to your post right after that.

I did 3000/1500 at 1.35v and auto timings, then 3133/1566, then 3200/1600, and finally 3200/1600 with tightened timings. Thank You


I'll definitely be looking out for the new BIOS. I had 5007 when I first posted.


Now to learn how to get the highest speeds from this ram on this board.
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Cool keep me posted I am interested in memory with this board.

I think BIOS (5007) might be working best at 3200. 5224 should work better with higher memory speeds so don't waste too much time when it will all change in a few days.

I like TM5 with 1usmus config (in his sig) for RAM testing. And his dram calculator has a benchmark which uses HCI memtest which I also like for speed tests and error checking.
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Well I can for sure say I learned alot about ryzen ram overclocking in just a day.
not sure if im doing it right, but I threw high timings and volts to see how far it can go first.


Gskill Flarex 4x8gb is stable on this board at 3600mhz.
16-16-16-16-36-54 1T, 1.45v, ProcODT 53.3ohm. I thought I had 1.1vsoc. but turns out I had it set to 1.175 (damn offsets). VDDG is set to 1.0.

I still have loose timings and high voltages. I plan on bringing those down as I find the max frequency.
The above settings worked stable for 3266,3333,3400,3466,3533 as well.

I totally skipped 3666 and went straight to 3733. (supposed ryzen 3000 sweet spot where I'd want low timings)
Unfortunately, I am experiencing my first freezes with Aida.

Raised vdimm to 1.475, freezed again within 10 minutes.
So i raised vdimm to 1.5 and am currently testing as I type (15mins in). Not sure If I shouldve increased vsoc or if vdimm is what I needed.

Once that can pass for a few, I'll start trying to lower timings.
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3733 crashed at 1.5v while running Aida64 after 30minutes or so.

Hmm... wondering what my next steps should be.

Gonna try increasing VDDG to 1.1v and try again with 1.5v.


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cannot boot into windows with VDDG anywhere above 1.0. So I have it kept at 1.0v now.
vDimm still 1.5v. 3733mhz 16-16-16-16-36-54-1T Proc ODT 53.3ohm.
Raised vSoc to 1.18125v. Can boot into windows again. Running Aida again.

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errors in Aida. No crashes yet.
-now testing vsoc 1.18725v

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