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post #11851 of 12029 (permalink) Old 07-07-2020, 08:18 AM
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I think I'm more excited about the 4700G though. As something to play with -- it seems very promising.

I can't even POST with LN2 mode.
4700G definetely more promising judging from the leaks, but then Zen3 ain't that far away

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So 3900xt seems to be better all core OC than 3900x, but still a strong/weak CCD arrangement, just both are stronger than average 3900x CCDs, if you have a strong 3900x there's no change in all core OC. Per CCX is likely better, no one has posted anything yet, no mention of IF yet on any reviews.

Of more interest, what the reviews show is that the 3000 series SKU selection is more about core count and boost is more about motherboard selection.

Differing sites show wildly differing boost behavior, boost levels, and performance as a result.

It's hilarious to see reviewers down on the XTs when they loved the x counterparts in 2019, all because of price creep on the x parts adjusting expectations.

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So 3900xt seems to be better all core OC than 3900x, but still a strong/weak CCD arrangement, just both are stronger than average 3900x CCDs, if you have a strong 3900x there's no change in all core OC. Per CCX is likely better, no one has posted anything yet, no mention of IF yet on any reviews.

Of more interest, what the reviews show is that the 3000 series SKU selection is more about core count and boost is more about motherboard selection.

Differing sites show wildly differing boost behavior, boost levels, and performance as a result.

It's hilarious to see reviewers down on the XTs when they loved the x counterparts in 2019, all because of price creep on the x parts adjusting expectations.
I've heard several reviewers say that their XT skus all hit 1900 FCLK no problem. And Level1Tech showed their 3900XT at 46.75 43.75 at 1.4V (that voltage is probably more than most are comfortable are at though).

LTT mentioned a BIOS version for XT processors, but said they didn't use it as AMD said old BIOS versions should run the XT skus.

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I've heard several reviewers say that their XT skus all hit 1900 FCLK no problem. And Level1Tech showed their 3900XT at 46.75 43.75 at 1.4V (that voltage is probably more than most are comfortable are at though).

LTT mentioned a BIOS version for XT processors, but said they didn't use it as AMD said old BIOS versions should run the XT skus.
I've noticed that if I leave hwinfo for a few hours, my cores are boosting to 4.6 or more much more often than they used to - I've even seen one core boost to 46.3 that I've never seen go over 4.3 (core 5).

Have yet to try pushing the CPU OC in the bios.... more fun!

1.4v........hmmmmmm

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I've heard several reviewers say that their XT skus all hit 1900 FCLK no problem. And Level1Tech showed their 3900XT at 46.75 43.75 at 1.4V (that voltage is probably more than most are comfortable are at though).

LTT mentioned a BIOS version for XT processors, but said they didn't use it as AMD said old BIOS versions should run the XT skus.
I've noticed that if I leave hwinfo for a few hours, my cores are boosting to 4.6 or more much more often than they used to - I've even seen one core boost to 46.3 that I've never seen go over 4.3 (core 5).

Have yet to try pushing the CPU OC in the bios.... more fun!

1.4v........hmmmmmm

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I know a lot of you are running newer generations of Ryzens with your CH VII, but for someone stuck with 2700X, what would you say is the bios version I should use?

I've been updating from time to time when I saw some good info here or saw that they bumped Agesa or something, figured out it won't hurt It does not bring any instability to the system (other than I feel it messed up downclocking/downvolting a some time ago) but for a long time I feel like I'm not gaining anything.

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I know a lot of you are running newer generations of Ryzens with your CH VII, but for someone stuck with 2700X, what would you say is the bios version I should use?

I've been updating from time to time when I saw some good info here or saw that they bumped Agesa or something, figured out it won't hurt It does not bring any instability to the system (other than I feel it messed up downclocking/downvolting a some time ago) but for a long time I feel like I'm not gaining anything.
I may not be any help, I am still running 1103 on my C7H/2700X that I've had since the Zen+ launch. I am still pleased with the performance I'm getting out of this setup and how well PBO works. I have a 3900X to pop in it but I have yet been able to convince myself to break up the marriage of this particular combo C7H / 2700X .

You should not feel "stuck" with your 2700X - I have 3950X thru 3800X systems, and this ole girl (C7H/2700X) can still play and contribute. It's pretty much only benchmark numbers that throw shade on her.

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Did somebody try standby with the new bios 3103, does it fix the standby UCLK issue? I'm just on the fence if i should upgrade cause 3004 works flawless so far beside that problem.

Get's stuck like this instead of the 1900/1900 i set in bios.
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if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it! there's nothing magical about a bios update that will suddenly make everything run a lot better. if you're able to overclock a little (manual, auto, or pbo) then you should probably leave it alone imo

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