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post #21 of 9864 (permalink) Old 04-20-2018, 12:06 AM
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I thought 1.1v was default on X470. In any event i'd still run 1.1v, maybe 1.0v.
yeah i went ahead and manually set it to 1.1v's. anything less than 1.0v seems low but i thought i just ask since it is refresh ryzen.

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Nice post regarding Zen+ from The Stilt at Anand:

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads...#post-39391302

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it is really hard for reviewers to know everything in advance without insiders information , like the new xfr2.0+pbo settings.
not to mention most of them are extremely time limited on testing new product like new ryzen this time.
no offense, even on c7h wifi, there are few earlier bios versions that dont even support performance echance option. at least what i was told is that the 0207 version of c7h wifi was the latest one (before nda) and will be using on the first wave of retails versison.

not less idea, but not enought time and support.
elmor makes the latest bios but not all asus over the world get the same one at the same time, lots of delay...
without elmor clarification on his highlights pdf, we still know **** about the proper oc method on new ryzen on new x470 before nda.
I know and thats why reviews are crap nowadays.
How many of them have Re-Review after few months when bioses and drivers are fixed up ?? 1-2 ?? Does it affect sales ?? NO cause when someone types in google motherboard test he will be bombed with day 1 resoults and on that he will decide on purchase. Tell me I'm wrong ??
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I'd be very interested to know how Ryzen 1 chips perform in the MB. I have Prime x370 atm and always had trouble with ram oc only getting to an often unreliable 3200. Does the new boost work on the original chips?

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I'd be very interested to know how Ryzen 1 chips perform in the MB. I have Prime x370 atm and always had trouble with ram oc only getting to an often unreliable 3200. Does the new boost work on the original chips?
Only supports up to 3200 on Ryzen 1000. Usually memory limits on Ryzen are up to the IMC.

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I know and thats why reviews are crap nowadays.
How many of them have Re-Review after few months when bioses and drivers are fixed up ?? 1-2 ?? Does it affect sales ?? NO cause when someone types in google motherboard test he will be bombed with day 1 resoults and on that he will decide on purchase. Tell me I'm wrong ??
reviewers in gerneal dont even know when they should revisit the product. the best example is vega. vega non ref cards were all suck because of the previous amd drivers only favoring ref design cards. the non ref vega cards were very difficult to reach 1500mhz stable at that time while reference model can get 1600mhz very easily. and it took amd almost half a year to finally launch a driver with normal support to non ref vega cards.
amd/gpu vendors in general of course wont tell you the bios/driver is still broken, and keep saying everything is fine and getting better. reviewing prodcuts takes lots of time (and money), cant expect every reviewers keep re-reviewing every time when new bios/driver is out, unless they are paid to do so.

this time some oc experts suggest maximizing new ryzen performance by not using traditional oc method (locking all core at the same frequency) but start playing xfr2.0 with pbo to achieve higher single thread performance (which ryzen really needs this).
its probably a new changes on the bios to some reviewers that this changes require times to test out and learn from that, without experts/insiders advice, it is a realy pain to try and error given limited time.

the asus exclusive performance enhancer really helps to implement the xfr2.0 & pbo in a super easy way. go check other vendors bios and you will see how hard for end users to understand how to tweak the settings to get xfr2.0 plus pbo to work properly.
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Thanks for support and this is one of the best "Asynchronous eCLK mode" features.

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Only supports up to 3200 on Ryzen 1000. Usually memory limits on Ryzen are up to the IMC.
Still interested to hear actual performance - many could already do more than 3200 on the CH6 - and the memory circuits have been redesigned with more efficient MB traces. I would think this gives some benefit, but how much?

Also interested to see how the boost feature worked with Ver 1 chips - supposed to be better than XFR1 - even on V1s

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Still interested to hear actual performance - many could already do more than 3200 on the CH6 - and the memory circuits have been redesigned with more efficient MB traces. I would think this gives some benefit, but how much?

Also interested to see how the boost feature worked with Ver 1 chips - supposed to be better than XFR1 - even on V1s

I have my 1700 in my CH VII right now, and boost does not appear to be any different. I get my 2700X tonight, and won't be testing after work so i can't comment on the memory differences.

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I have my 1700 in my CH VII right now, and boost does not appear to be any different. I get my 2700X tonight, and won't be testing after work so i can't comment on the memory differences.
Thanks - I'm thinking of getting one of these as my Prime Pro really isn't great, never really been happy with it - others with my ram get much better OCing than me and the sound died on it about a month after I got it

Are you able to adjust the boost/XFR settings in bios?

@elmor are the different memory implementations between P x370 Pro and CH7 significant?

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