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post #6151 of 6238 (permalink) Old 05-15-2019, 08:46 AM
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Ha.....I'm pretty excited too

Also @1usmus has let us know that X570/Ryzen 3000 will be able to do up to 5000MTs! This would be a crazy improvement!
I'd need someone like @1usmus to clarify, but I believe there is a certain point where the memory would run faster than the infinity fabric could handle so the infinity fabric would run at half or at least a reduced memory speed. I imagine that means there will be an actual speed sweet spot where the infinity fabric would run at its fastest but potentially slower than the memory's top speed.

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Ha.....I'm pretty excited too

Also @1usmus has let us know that X570/Ryzen 3000 will be able to do up to 5000MTs! This would be a crazy improvement!
depends on Latency tbh.... Zen 1/2 had 200% of intel's mamory Latency one of reason why its not as good for High fps gaming !!!!
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I'd need someone like @1usmus to clarify, but I believe there is a certain point where the memory would run faster than the infinity fabric could handle so the infinity fabric would run at half or at least a reduced memory speed. I imagine that means there will be an actual speed sweet spot where the infinity fabric would run at its fastest but potentially slower than the memory's top speed.
You're right - he says...

'The maximum value of the frequency of RAM Zen 2 generation is 5000 MHz mode UCLK == MEMCLK / 2'

I'm not sure how much more performance you can get when you're reducing clocks like that though...

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yesterday I have test something, "Power Supply Idle Control". Normally it set to Auto but I changed to "Typical" and test with prime95.

I have test 3 values : 8k, 1344k and 1792k. (30mins each)

the 1792k got failed within a minute O_o and the others passed.

even disable PBO and set ram to default (2133) it still error on 1792k test.

I'm so confused why Power Supply Idle Control involves that much.

After I change back to Auto, everything just working fine.

All tests passed
TM5 config v3 : 10 cycle
LinX_0.7 8GB : 15 times
prime95 : 800k, 25000MB
prime95 : 1344k, FFT, 30mins
prime95 : 1792k, FFT, 30mins
prime95 : 8-4096k, FFT, 6hrs

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CH6 got their bios update earlier today - AGESA 0072a

Hopefully ours will follow shortly

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CH6 got their bios update earlier today - AGESA 0072a

Hopefully ours will follow shortly
Ours normally drop on a Friday or late Thursday soooooo I hope you're right.

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Here it is... 2304
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/

ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO (WI-FI) BIOS 2304

1. Update AM4 ComboPI 0.0.7.2A for next-gen processors and to improve CPU compatibility

2. Fixed an issue with Precision Boost values

3. Improved memory compatibility

4. Enhance system security

ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating to this BIOS version.

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Here it is... 2304
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/

ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO (WI-FI) BIOS 2304

1. Update AM4 ComboPI 0.0.7.2A for next-gen processors and to improve CPU compatibility

2. Fixed an issue with Precision Boost values

3. Improved memory compatibility

4. Enhance system security

ASUS strongly recommends installing AMD chipset driver 18.50.16 or later before updating to this BIOS version.

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Lol . . . I just checked 20 minutes ago and it wasn't there.

And I hope that PBO fix doesn't change the behavior as it is with 2203. I kinda like how it is now.

Something with nothing to do with the new BIOS -- I can't boot RAM speeds past 3600MHz. I used to be able to run 3666MHz and faster, but now I can't even POST with them. I think I may have created a memory hole after using 3600 with a tCWL value lower than tCL.

Edit:

I can't find that 2304 by changing the download link. Can you copy the link and post it?

Edit 2:

Using the new Edge browser I can get 2304 to download by changing the link.
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...-ASUS-2304.zip

For non-wifi: https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...-ASUS-2304.zip

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Edit:

I can't find that 2304 by changing the download link. Can you copy the link and post it?

Edit 2:

Using the new Edge browser I can get 2304 to download by changing the link.
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...-ASUS-2304.zip

For non-wifi: https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...-ASUS-2304.zip
I've used Edge too.

FINALLY!!!
I can get my RAM to work @3600 CAS16!!
Even if they are set to 2T by Stil's profile.

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Ours normally drop on a Friday or late Thursday soooooo I hope you're right.
Hopefully we'll get a later AGESA version - like 1001, or even 1002 (which is already out on a Gigabyte X470 board) and they'll be an improvement on the 007x versions we've had so far.

OCing is very different on these AGESA versions and some are reporting higher inter-CCX times of 75ns as well. It would be a shame to sacrifice current performance for the the sake of the new CPUs

In the meantime, I'm going to see how far I get on CL14 - I might be able to squeeze 3666 out of it. I can already boot 3866 CL16, but needs much work, and will need to get higher than that to beat any CL14 timings.

Edit: didn't see the updates! Overclocker.net keeps not updating!

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