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post #8311 of 8599 (permalink) Old 08-13-2019, 11:37 AM
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emmm how do you do it? hjahahah axD
Icue lets you define each movement specifically. That is mouse location, then mouse down to drag etc. You can even just record what ever it is you are doing.

I know there was an app that allowed you to run HCI memtest with out doing this. I had this done before that app came along. Now people use the Ryzen Dram calculator from 1usmus as it combines it all in a much nicer interface. I really would have preferred to pay for the full version, but the developer would only take paypal. I don't use paypal.

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Lets see those timings. Go Into your UEFI, go to the Tools Page, go into Asus User Profiles (or what ever they call it), click on a USB Thumb Drive in your Computer (Oh yeah, plug one of those into your computer by the way, lol), and then hit CTRL-F2 and name the profile. This is going to save every setting in your UEFI to a TXT File. Copy and paste that Text file into a spoiler window here for us.

Also, when you boot back up, close every single background program you have going. iCue, Logitech, Google Chrome, HWinfo, EVERYTHING you can get away with not using for 5 minutes. Open Aida64. Hit CLTRL-SHIFT-ESC, this will open Task Manager. Click on the Details Tab. Highlight Aida64.exe then right click on it, go to Priority, and then choose High. Close task manager. Run the Memory Benchmark. Save a Screen shot. Post that here along with you Profile. Once you have done that I will go through it and try to help you as best as I can. I am by no means a memory expert, so if someone else wants to jump in and help as well, this will give them a starting point to know what your working with.
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Can you Close all your background programs, including HWinfo, everything, then open AIDA64, set it to High Priority in Task Manager, and run the Memory Benchmark again, screenshot it and post it here, por favor.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Krisztias View Post
Here it is:
Also, FYI, it looks like you are right where you are supposed to be. Keep In mind you only have a 1 CCD Chip, that means you are limited in the kind of Write numbers you can hit. This is explained pretty well in this video:
Spoiler!
by BuildZoid, whom is very knowledgeable and good at teaching on the subject. I queued up that video to the point where he talks about write speed, but I highly suggest watching that video and this video:
Spoiler!
to learn about the scaling of Memory at speeds and what is possible. His focus of the videos is something we already know, that you should run the IF at exactly half the Mem Clock or you get a latency penalty, but he has a chart in both of these videos, the second video has clock speeds listed closer to us, and it shows you what AIDA stats he is getting for each speed and Latency, so its a very helpful reference.

Also to learn more about the philosphy of lowering timings yourself, without the Ryzen Calcluator I highly suggest watching this video on your phone and Tuning your system with him, not by copying his numbers, but by listening to what he has to say about each timing and adjusting your own accordingly:
Spoiler!


So, if you want to see some of the higher numbers like the people around these forums you will need to step up to 3733 or 3800Mhz which if you have the Flare X kit, or one similar it can do. Once you reach CL16 3800Mhz you will start to see your speeds approach other peoples. Also keep in mind that Windows Background services and programs play a HUGE role in those scores you recieve when benchmarking. I highly suggest tuning your System with Autoruns to stop background processes as much as possible, and always benchmark with your Benchmark (in this case Aida64) being the only thing open, and putting it into High Priority Mode before running the benchmark. Also close Any Monitoring software just while running the benchmark, you will see yourself, this makes a drastic difference.

Last but not least, I wanted to find some numbers posted around online for people who have a 1 CCD Chip like yourself, because that is a pretty big factor, you have half the cache, and are limited on what you can hit for write speed, that were at 3600. Not all these people are 3600 CL 14 with timings as tight as yours, (and I checked yours by the way, your timings look pretty tight), but this will give you an idea of what other people are getting with your speed and CCD Layout (Will list the chip before picture if info is not in picture). Also there is a small difference in performance that your memory seems to be a tad behind, but I would be willing to bet that comes down to Windows Background Services.

Spoiler!

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3800x:
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EDIT:

One other thing I just noticed looking at your Timings. You have manually Keyed in Settings for:
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For those settings specifically, Try setting them all to auto. The Ryzen Calculator is meant to be more of a guide, and I have noticed on our MoBo, letting it decide the Termination Voltages resulted in a slight Boost in Performance vs What I had keyed in manually. You might or might not see the same, but its worth a shot.

Also, I saw my best performance with the following timings on 3600Mhz, you might experiment and see if they help you as well. Although your Latency was better than mine, my Bandwidth was higher, so you might want to give it a shot, or maybe mix the 2, and see what you can get. (Disabling Gear down mode will help get better Performance, but with timings these low I couldn't get it to boot, so thats why I have it enabled)

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My Aida64 Running these settings:
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Icue lets you define each movement specifically. That is mouse location, then mouse down to drag etc. You can even just record what ever it is you are doing.

I know there was an app that allowed you to run HCI memtest with out doing this. I had this done before that app came along. Now people use the Ryzen Dram calculator from 1usmus as it combines it all in a much nicer interface. I really would have preferred to pay for the full version, but the developer would only take paypal. I don't use paypal.
I paid for Pro and got nothing for it.

This will spawn windows for you though.

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Damn that is NICE! Fricking awesome!

I just hit my personal best numbers yet. Haven't tested stability yet though...

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Lol! Love the picture man!

They're still in short supply then? A friend was enquiring if I could build a system for him with 3900X - I'd just assumed stock wasn't a problem....


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The 3900X availability has popped up 5 times since yesterday on Amazon. I picked up one myself, arriving on Thursday. I think stock is starting to stabilize.
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