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Quote: Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
Here are modified bioses for Crosshair VII boards, which include the new SMU 46.49.0 release that improves boost behavior / margin on 3000-series CPUs.

Do note that these are totally untested, rebuilt bioses. Despite I fully expect them to work, there is no guarantee what so ever that they actually do.

Also since the bioses have been rebuilt, their original signatures allowing them to be flashed using official software (e.g. EzFlash) tools are invalid. Because of that, they can be only flashed in using the Flashback feature.

In case they do not work or introduce some kind of an issue, you can revert to original bios by using Flashback function.

Also note that these bioses ARE NOT based AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA code revision, as the whole code base has not been upgraded (only the SMU firmwares).
Therefore the behavior might not be identical to true 1.0.0.3ABBA bios builds.

Naming: Official bios build, M = Modification, FI = 4649 (ASCII)

Crosshair VII Hero 0002M-FI

Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi 0002M-FI

Please let me know if they work or not, so that I can take them down if they're not working.
I can confirm non wifi flashes fine. Seeing some improvement even at stock (though nothing mind bending! - +50 points CB15) - but have only briefly looked. Going for a closer look at things and some tests with memory OC.

Thanks again!

EDIT: WOW! Idle temp has dropped below 40c! (According to R Master) Idle VCore is now dropping, as is VID. Ryzen Master reporting CPU voltage as less than 1v???????
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1002 with modded smu by the stilt working for me.
Boost SEEMS similiar for now to 2501 bios regarding peak boost clocks, however it SEEMS marginally better in under load conditions (previously i was NEVER able to hit 4.400 under a cinebench single core load, now i am able to)

WIFI version.

P.S i was able to hit one time 4.450 with my 3700x on 0002+ modded with 1002smu, let's see if with some undervolt i can do it on this bios (noctua d15)


yeah, as i was writing this it happened. Everything stock, only fan curve, grid install and onboard devices changed. ONLY PBO changed to +200 mhz, everything else default (Everything cpu related apart of pbo is stock)

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So far, performance is better though clocks aren't much better. I've only bettered my CB15 score by 4points.

I didn't play much under default settings, but on 2501 default settings, I would see 4.6/4.63GHz on light loads, which I didn't see, but I need to test longer (not tonight).

I can definitely say performance has increased and temps have dropped. I think my CCD2 might be doing more work than it was, but that's just a theory ATM!

For BIOS OCers, things aren't too different settings-wise (so far) but for Ryzen Master OCers they will have to get used to the new voltage readout and lower temps (Idle 27c).

Clearly RM is still fudging these values in some way, and/or smoothing them more. I'm still confused as to why they even put a 'CPU Voltage' read-out when it's still not a 'real' voltage at all.

I enabled both settings (CPPC I think) for telling OS which cores to use, and dfc and c-states, but still fastest cores are not selected.. In fact now it's picking the slowest core on CCD1 sometimes. Not sure release ver of windows has the newest scheduler.

Thanks again to @The Stilt for giving us the opportunity to try this out. If we don't get new bios tomorrow we'll still be able to test the new SMU and boost behaviour.

One last thing - Ryzen Master is still incapable of showing correct max core speeds. Where HWInfo shows me Core 0 had max of 4.60GHz, RM shows the max for core 0 as 4293MHz. Which is right? Answers on a postcard..., but my money is on HWInfo, and AISuite, and Aida64. Good thing really or everyone would be thinking that their 4.6GHz boost CPU could only attain 4.293GHz.

It's very late, I'm not going to test any more or I'll make errors, but this is very encouraging!

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Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
So far, performance is better though clocks aren't much better. I've only bettered my CB15 score by 4points.

I didn't play much under default settings, but on 2501 default settings, I would see 4.6/4.63GHz on light loads, which I didn't see, but I need to test longer (not tonight).

I can definitely say performance has increased and temps have dropped. I think my CCD2 might be doing more work than it was, but that's just a theory ATM!

For BIOS OCers, things aren't too different settings-wise (so far) but for Ryzen Master OCers they will have to get used to the new voltage readout and lower temps (Idle 27c).

Clearly RM is still fudging these values in some way, and/or smoothing them more. I'm still confused as to why they even put a 'CPU Voltage' read-out when it's still not a 'real' voltage at all.

I enabled both settings (CPPC I think) for telling OS which cores to use, and dfc and c-states, but still fastest cores are not selected.. In fact now it's picking the slowest core on CCD1 sometimes. Not sure release ver of windows has the newest scheduler.

Thanks again to @The Stilt for giving us the opportunity to try this out. If we don't get new bios tomorrow we'll still be able to test the new SMU and boost behaviour.

One last thing - Ryzen Master is still incapable of showing correct max core speeds. Where HWInfo shows me Core 0 had max of 4.60GHz, RM shows the max for core 0 as 4293MHz. Which is right? Answers on a postcard..., but my money is on HWInfo, and AISuite, and Aida64. Good thing really or everyone would be thinking that their 4.6GHz boost CPU could only attain 4.293GHz.

It's very late, I'm not going to test any more or I'll make errors, but this is very encouraging!
I use Win 10 1903 (18950 insider build) and windows seem to prefer usage of CCX 1 despite CCX2 having a gold star core. However in games like AC Odyssey the most of the load is on the grey star and circle core of CCX 1.

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Dang, I didn't even notice that it wasn't just the memory bandwidth that was reduced but also actual CPU performance. Anything after BIOS 2606 drops my Cinebench 15 score 100+ points. Still using my 2700X on a CH7.

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Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
So far, performance is better though clocks aren't much better. I've only bettered my CB15 score by 4points.

I didn't play much under default settings, but on 2501 default settings, I would see 4.6/4.63GHz on light loads, which I didn't see, but I need to test longer (not tonight).

I can definitely say performance has increased and temps have dropped. I think my CCD2 might be doing more work than it was, but that's just a theory ATM!

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Clearly RM is still fudging these values in some way, and/or smoothing them more. I'm still confused as to why they even put a 'CPU Voltage' read-out when it's still not a 'real' voltage at all.

I enabled both settings (CPPC I think) for telling OS which cores to use, and dfc and c-states, but still fastest cores are not selected.. In fact now it's picking the slowest core on CCD1 sometimes. Not sure release ver of windows has the newest scheduler.

Thanks again to @The Stilt for giving us the opportunity to try this out. If we don't get new bios tomorrow we'll still be able to test the new SMU and boost behaviour.

One last thing - Ryzen Master is still incapable of showing correct max core speeds. Where HWInfo shows me Core 0 had max of 4.60GHz, RM shows the max for core 0 as 4293MHz. Which is right? Answers on a postcard..., but my money is on HWInfo, and AISuite, and Aida64. Good thing really or everyone would be thinking that their 4.6GHz boost CPU could only attain 4.293GHz.

It's very late, I'm not going to test any more or I'll make errors, but this is very encouraging!
Does anyone know which UEFI @The Stilt Modified to insert the new SMU into? Don't want to lose the Fan Fixes we got with the 0002 Beta UEFI, and am about to leave for a long nights work in about an hour, don't want to flash this and then have my fans turn off at some point while I am gone. (I remote into my PC often, and leave it rendering while I am gone, so it pretty much stays on 24/7 and don't want to flash this new UEFI if the Fan bug will crawl back.

Regardless, awesome post @The Stilt ! Can't wait to have time to properly test it!

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Does anyone know which UEFI @The Stilt Modified to insert the new SMU into? Don't want to lose the Fan Fixes we got with the 0002 Beta UEFI, and am about to leave for a long nights work in about an hour, don't want to flash this and then have my fans turn off at some point while I am gone. (I remote into my PC often, and leave it rendering while I am gone, so it pretty much stays on 24/7 and don't want to flash this new UEFI if the Fan bug will crawl back.

Regardless, awesome post @The Stilt ! Can't wait to have time to properly test it!
C7H bioses are 0002 based.
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C7H bioses are 0002 based.
So AMAZING! My FAVORITE UEFI! Thank You @The Stilt ! About to flash now, as this is the only UEFI that doesn't suffer from the Stupid Fan Bug!

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Back on 15/07/19 .

Quote: Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
Here are modified bioses for Crosshair VII boards, which include the new SMU 46.49.0 release that improves boost behavior / margin on 3000-series CPUs.

Do note that these are totally untested, rebuilt bioses. Despite I fully expect them to work, there is no guarantee what so ever that they actually do.

Also since the bioses have been rebuilt, their original signatures allowing them to be flashed using official software (e.g. EzFlash) tools are invalid. Because of that, they can be only flashed in using the Flashback feature.

In case they do not work or introduce some kind of an issue, you can revert to original bios by using Flashback function.

Also note that these bioses ARE NOT based AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA code revision, as the whole code base has not been upgraded (only the SMU firmwares).
Therefore the behavior might not be identical to true 1.0.0.3ABBA bios builds.

Naming: Official bios build, M = Modification, FI = 4649 (ASCII)

Crosshair VII Hero 0002M-FI

Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi 0002M-FI

Please let me know if they work or not, so that I can take them down if they're not working.
Nice , added my mix to your great share Roger .

C7H & C7HWIFI UEFI 0002M-FIE

At stock it give me same average voltage as SMU FW 46.34.00, 46.40.00 used to be higher mV.

Spoiler!


And PBO+150MHz is as nice as SMU FW 46.34.00 , 46.40.00 used to be higher mV and didn't break ~4.275GHz .

Spoiler!

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C7H bioses are 0002 based.
You wouldn't happen to know why my 2700X sees a drop in performance on BIOS versions after 2606 would you? Reduced memory bandwidth in Aida tests and reduced score in Cinebench 15? It's a drop of 100+ (around 120) points in Cinebench.

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