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post #161 of 177 (permalink) Old 03-16-2019, 08:37 AM
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Actually you can- check ASUS PRIME X470 PRO thread:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-a...cesses-40.html

SO this new Update broke all the boards?
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Welp finally was able to downgrade the bios. Had to pull vga and ram and remove cmos battery for a minute and Flashback+ was
able to downgrade to 1.6.

System is much better now since I downgraded.
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1.47 volts is excessive and will definitely degrade the life expectancy and performance of your memory over time.

They comment that b-die memories work well up to 1.50v. I use an 80cm fan on top of it to cool, it's only 40c.

Many models nowadays are sold with 1.45v, so I see why you worry so much.

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post #164 of 177 (permalink) Old 03-24-2019, 11:36 AM - Thread Starter
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They comment that b-die memories work well up to 1.50v. I use an 80cm fan on top of it to cool, it's only 40c.

Many models nowadays are sold with 1.45v, so I see why you worry so much.
Only because it is rated at 1.40 volts at the high XMP frequency. being 5% higher 24/7 will degrade performance slightly over 2 or 3 years.

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Only because it is rated at 1.40 volts at the high XMP frequency. being 5% higher 24/7 will degrade performance slightly over 2 or 3 years.

How do you use 24/7?

Ryzen 2600 @ 4150mhz 1.35v - G.Skill F4-3600C16D-16GTZR @ 3600mhz CL 14 1.47v
MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC - MSI GTX 1080 TI Gaming X @ 2025 1.025v / 11880mhz
SO: Nvme Intel 760p 250GB - Game: (2 X SSD Sandisk 240GB + 2 X HDD 2TB) RAID-0 PCI-E StoreMI

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Welp finally was able to downgrade the bios. Had to pull vga and ram and remove cmos battery for a minute and Flashback+ was
able to downgrade to 1.6.

System is much better now since I downgraded.
Was your cmos battery removed during the flashback procedure? Tried to downgrade v17 bios to v15 on my B450 Tomahawk, removed the graphics card, RAM, pulled out cmos battery and reinserted it after a minute. Then tried to flashback, the flashback+ light flashed for 2 seconds then stayed on until I turned off the PC, v17 bios remained.
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Was your cmos battery removed during the flashback procedure? Tried to downgrade v17 bios to v15 on my B450 Tomahawk, removed the graphics card, RAM, pulled out cmos battery and reinserted it after a minute. Then tried to flashback, the flashback+ light flashed for 2 seconds then stayed on until I turned off the PC, v17 bios remained.
I tried both ways with it in and out, with it out it worked. Also make sure nothing else is on the drive and the pc is off. I had that problem also it only flashing for few seconds.
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Welp finally was able to downgrade the bios. Had to pull vga and ram and remove cmos battery for a minute and Flashback+ was
able to downgrade to 1.6.

System is much better now since I downgraded.
Could you explain a little more please?
I have a MSI x470 Gaming Pro Carbon that with latest bios PBO Scalar dissapeared and can't flash previous BIOS.

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"Many of you know that I have often recommended X470 GAMING M7 AC. This board is one of the best that is now on the shelves. But at the moment I have to warn all users. Zen 2 support is not currently available. Deception."

https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1140600080975781888
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"Many of you know that I have often recommended X470 GAMING M7 AC. This board is one of the best that is now on the shelves. But at the moment I have to warn all users. Zen 2 support is not currently available. Deception."

https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1140600080975781888
Your deception? There is beta bios 1.94 on the MSI site for this motherboard that supports Zen2 cpus. I am waiting for an official 1.90 bios before I apply Zen2 support.
My gut deeling is the vrm support on this board will be inadequate for the 3900X and 3950X. It is barely adequate for the 8 core 2700X. I am now getting 85 Celsius temps running at 4.2 GHZ with the Prime '95 torture test with small FFT form factor for maximum heat. I have one of the best expandable AIO's on the market the Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme 280mm thick radiator. I have the pump close to full speed at 2700RPM and the fans maxed out. Of course I am in a sun room. During the day with the AC blasting the ambient temp is almost 80 Farenheit. So that is a contributing factor, but not the nain factor. As soon as the MSI X570 Meg Ace is released I will buy it if it is under $350. It has superb vrm and power phase support. I think thaty plus my Ryzen 9 3900X will run a lot cooler than this overclocked 2700X.

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