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post #11 of 177 (permalink) Old 05-04-2018, 08:59 PM - Thread Starter
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That was a waste, your Flare X 3200 could've done that exact speed and timings.
Wrong! The best my FlareX achieved was 3266mhz CL14-13-13-28-63 and still pass YCrunch stability test. Any faster and it failed stability testing. The highest speed the FlareX would post at was 3466mhz but it was unstable. With my new memory it successfully posts at 3866mhz but won't stabilize until 3466mhz.That is the luck of the silicon lottery. Most Ryzen 2700X do not get 3600mhz stable. 3466mhz is the typical stable high speed. Perhaps there are 1% that may achieve 3733mhz with stability. Some 10 to 15% may get 3600mhz with stability. That is a guesstimate based on what I see reported by others.

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My memory is set at DDR4 3466 CL15-15-15-32-67.
Did you notice that handy dram configuration tool: https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-am...-dram-am4.html It helped me setting all the parameters. I have the 2700x and the 4000 Tridentz (CL 18) @1.35V and could not get it stable at 3466 with my X370 board. With this its stable within aida stress test at 3400 14-14-14-30

I already have the X470 (Gigabyte) here and am curious how memory performs once i got it installed. At tomshardware they mananged 3466 @14-14-14-34 timings https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ew,5571-4.html

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Quote: Originally Posted by Whatisthisfor View Post
Did you notice that handy dram configuration tool: https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-am...-dram-am4.html It helped me setting all the parameters. I have the 2700x and the 4000 Tridentz (CL 18) @1.35V and could not get it stable at 3466 with my X370 board. With this its stable within aida stress test at 3400 14-14-14-30

I already have the X470 (Gigabyte) here and am curious how memory performs once i got it installed. At tomshardware they mananged 3466 @14-14-14-34 timings https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ew,5571-4.html


I managed to slightly tighten my memory settings from what you quoted of me: 15-15-15-32-64. I am not going to obsess on a little bit faster for unappreciable difference in real performance. Now if I could get to 3600 stable, I would do it without substantial loosening of my timings, but it is no go. All the playing around with obscure settings is voodoo nonsense in my estimate. It might slightly help timings, but it will not get your frequency up in most cases. You cannot do what physically is not possible. The IMC tweaks on the 2700X vs 1800X are modest tweaks NOT revolutionary. I think we will really have to wait for Zen 2 cpus before we see a major improvement in speeds where 3600mhz will be there for all if that have the right binned memory and that 4000mhz may be possible for many.

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This should be the best x470 board when it comes to memory overclocking. MSI did put some effort nin optimizing the memory subsystem: grounding of mem slots, VRM shilding etc.
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This should be the best x470 board when it comes to memory overclocking. MSI did put some effort into optimizing the memory subsystem: grounding of mem slots, VRM shielding etc.
I agree. Of course much depends on the quality of the IMC which while better with the Zen+ chips than with original Ryzen still varies from chip to chip. I can see some individuals with the same memory as mine (G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-4266mhz cl19-19-19-39 v 1.40 sku # F4-4266C19D-16GTZKW being able to run stable at 3600mhz and a very few as high as 3733mhz. I feel the vast majority, like me will only be able to do 3466mhz with very tight timings. My timings are 15-15-15-15-32-64. Faster speeds or tighter timings than this cause failure in YCrunch memory stability tests.
I also feel many who are vrm obsessed feel this baoard is inadequate. I do not see it that way. The vrm and digi power is vastly better than on the their X370 models and only a bit lesser than Asus Crosshair VII and Asrock Taichi. It has been put under stress by me on several occasions and passed a 16 minute run with OCCT v 4.51 with AVX Linpack enabled. It has also passed a similar run on Prime'95. I have zero thermal throttling or freezes on this board.

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I just pulled the trigger on this board not too long ago, what VRM temps are you all experiencing? im around the 38-40ish marker (granted my room stays rather warm) but curious if thats normal "enough"
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Quote: Originally Posted by mechavore884 View Post
I just pulled the trigger on this board not too long ago, what VRM temps are you all experiencing? im around the 38-40ish marker (granted my room stays rather warm) but curious if thats normal "enough"

I assume you are talking about cpu at idle. It sounds within the expected range. My vrm temps vary at idel from mid 30's in early morning or late evening to mid to high 30's in day time. They have not exceeded 60-61 Celcius under load. 2700X does run hot under load . With AVX enabled apps sometimes cpu temp has reached 79 Celcius under load. Never has it shut down on me at 4.25 GHZ and below.

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How do you like the board so far? My x370 Gigabyte gaming 5 is giving me a bunch of headaches and I would like to find the most stable x470 motherboard currently out. (With some nice overclocking tools and rear buttons)
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