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post #1201 of 1324 (permalink) Old 10-10-2019, 07:02 AM
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Was it an SOC voltage issue for 3600C14? I wish I could help out more with Ryzen 3rd gen stuff but the current pricing of R9 3900X is still more than retail and Microcenter hasn't received any in stock (my preferred supplier).
I tried setting SOC between 1 and 1.125 with no difference at all so it seemed like that didn't affect the stability issue. Only way for me to "fix" it was to either increase DRAM Voltage to 1.42 or increase timings/lower the multiplier (3533mhz for example).

I also tried LLC at high/turbo/extreme with no difference in behaviour because at first I thought it was maybe caused by droop.

Here's my current settings that runs the kit completly stable, only thing I've touched is setting dram voltage to 1.42. It runs a pretty high tRFC but I havent bothered with manual timings yet.

Edit: Decided to set the timings manually with help from the DRAM calculator, 3600 Safe settings + the Neo kit xmp timings. Stable so far. Still +.2 mV.
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Has anyone ran into this weird issue?

After some gaming the fan connected to the SYS_FAN4 header seems to get stuck at 100%. Restarting the machine fixes this. Using F42b BIOS with a 3700X.

The fan in question is set to manual in BIOS and to only go to 100% in extreme temp situations which just don't occur. Still occurs on normal or silent profile. I have tried connecting different fans to it and it happens with all of them, just on this specific fan header.
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Has anyone ran into this weird issue?

After some gaming the fan connected to the SYS_FAN4 header seems to get stuck at 100%. Restarting the machine fixes this. Using F42b BIOS with a 3700X.

The fan in question is set to manual in BIOS and to only go to 100% in extreme temp situations which just don't occur. Still occurs on normal or silent profile. I have tried connecting different fans to it and it happens with all of them, just on this specific fan header.
I don't remember if it happens with SYS_FAN4 header, but i have a strange issue with fans too. From time to time, just after the post, the fan connected to that particular header (i'll check if it's SYS_FAN4) stops, it's like the header isn't pumping enough juice to the fan. Happens with any of my fans (all noctuas, different sizes). Happens rarely on latest bios, was more frequent on older bioses.
I suspect it's a bios bug of some sort. I have a custom fan curve, the minimum speed i've set is way above the min supported by my fans, so that's not the problem.
There could be a bug involving that header (or fan headers in general). I'll let you know if it's SYS_FAN4 for me too.

edit: if i reboot, enter bios and save, without touching anything, the problem fixes by itself, supporting the idea that's a bios bug

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Flashed and started running benchmarks on this bios....strange result with RealBench(which is the last bench before I run SiSoft). It runs the whole test, but results in Error for all scores. It doesn't crash, it completes everything.

If anyone else has RealBench, try running it and see if you get the same results. I haven't restarted yet. I will try that, if that doesn't work I'll download another copy to check. I believe I'm run version 2.56.

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Thanks....It worked fine after I rebooted. Strange though. I ran like 13 benchmarks prior, then that happened.

Just finished the benchmarks...not to get them logged. Woohoo....doesn't seem like much has changed really, based on the numbers I saw and can recall from previous testing. We'll see I guess.

EDIT: Just got everything logged. For whatever reason I ran these with the LLC set to High on both Core/SoC. I might rerun them to see if that really makes a difference in results, or just power numbers.

Anyway...here are the results:

3700X Bios Testing F40/F41/F41a/F41c/F42a/F42b/F42e(3466)

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Not sure I'm going to flash, no real change notes. I'm already on F42b. I REALLY wish I could disable the Wifi/bluetooth in the BIOS


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Not sure I'm going to flash, no real change notes. I'm already on F42b. I REALLY wish I could disable the Wifi/bluetooth in the BIOS
If it weren't for the fact that this board has dual bios, I wouldn't flash either....but I'm a bit of a benchmark junky....lol

I've been running my rig at 4.2 all core @1.3v and the ram at 3666CL16 @1.380v as my daily driver.

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Reran all benchmarks....there are a couple I think I will get rid of....PCMark10 and RealBench. Neither seem to produce consistent results most of the time. While RealBench is good for testing stability, the benchmark seems to be a mess.

Anyway.....I left the results with the LLC set on high on the sheet...here is the updated version:

3700X Bios Testing F40/F41/F41a/F41c/F42a/F42b/F42e(3466)

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I went ahead and updated for no reason. Bored I guess. No major changes I can tell.

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