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post #11 of 62 (permalink) Old 08-16-2018, 10:42 AM
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The MEG is 16x 70A VCORE.
The GAE is 10x 50A VCORE.
The ZE you currently have is 8x 60A VCORE.

As a ZE owner if I was getting TR I wouldn't even consider the GAE. The other aspect of the ZE is the IR3555M have internal temperature sensor. So VRM temperature reported on this board is not a diode close to VRM components, but actual internal temperature of components AFAIK.
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post #12 of 62 (permalink) Old 08-16-2018, 11:01 AM - Thread Starter
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Thanks guys for all your input, fantastic advice. I went ahead and ordered the MSI MEG. For me it is a quality board after watching all the reviews thus far, it does offer me a good deal of reassurance. Granted the boot times are a little longer but I think that will likely get resolved in BIOS updates. Even if it does not get resolved, I will take a longer boot any day if it means I have a stronger board overall.

I still cannot get over Asus's arrogance with regards to TR2 and no refresh, even more insulting they think the cooling kit with a skimpy fan is going to help the VRM's LOL.


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MEG review in Chinese (TR 2950X + 2990WX): http://www.expreview.com/63506-2.html

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In fact, this 32-core full-core over 4GHz is also a very difficult thing, because the FSB is not too stable under load, and finally the CPU is supercharged to 4GHz with 1.28V and tested by AIDA 64 FPU grill. At this point, the power consumption table shows that the overall power consumption of the platform has reached 650W, which means that the power consumption of the CPU has doubled compared with the default. However, the power supply of the motherboard is still not much problem, indicating that the power quality of the motherboard is excellent. .

TDA21472 datasheet is nowhere to be found but a reference is found over at AVNet.


A Supermicro board was reviewed by Steven using the same mosfet (10 of them instead of 16), but on a 24 core EPYC https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/85...w/index10.html

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I recently got the MSI MEG X399 and did a little testing with it.
It has an offset voltage option. So far its working quite well.
My CPU is running with PBO active and to my surprise the Noctua TR4 cooler can actually handle that kind of load.
Things would be better with a custom loop but i am fine with how things are running at the moment.
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MEG review in Chinese (TR 2950X + 2990WX): http://www.expreview.com/63506-2.html




TDA21472 datasheet is nowhere to be found but a reference is found over at AVNet.


A Supermicro board was reviewed by Steven using the same mosfet (10 of them instead of 16), but on a 24 core EPYC https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/85...w/index10.html
Oh nice find !


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Caved! Grabbed a MEG, setting it up now with 1900X, will throw a 2950X in when they are available. Apparently MSI just released a new bios for the boar with PBO and Offset Voltage settings, way to go MSI!!! Looks like they are going to support this board and respect feedback from users regarding feature implementation in bios.


@ENTERPRISE , you should start an official X399 MEG user thread.

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Ok just set this board MEG up with a 1900X temporarily till the 2950X is available and it appears broken on the bios level. 1900X seems locked at 3800MHz and 1.4+ volts with no XFR and will NOT down volt or down clock in windows with balance power plan enabled. There appears to be nothing I can change in the bios that rectifies this issue of the cpu being "locked" in this 3800MHz 1.4+ volt mode.

And all the reviewers didn't pick up on this OBVIOUS flaw, faaaaark me, how well do they test things out. What now? Blowed if I want to run this system like this constantly.


BTW, tried both bioses 1.0 and 1.1 and same problem.

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Check if hardware OC mode is active. this sounds an awful lot like one of the OC modes being in effect by the knob on the lower right on the board.

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Quote: Originally Posted by lowdog View Post
Caved! Grabbed a MEG, setting it up now with 1900X, will throw a 2950X in when they are available. Apparently MSI just released a new bios for the boar with PBO and Offset Voltage settings, way to go MSI!!! Looks like they are going to support this board and respect feedback from users regarding feature implementation in bios.


@ENTERPRISE , you should start an official X399 MEG user thread.
I would but alas I do not have the time to run one properly.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Fitzcaraldo View Post
Check if hardware OC mode is active. this sounds an awful lot like one of the OC modes being in effect by the knob on the lower right on the board.

tried with both hardware/the knob and software/bios to set it to 0 which is off and no difference, still stuck at 3800MHz with 1.4+ volts. Disabeling performance Boost in the bios drops the voltage down to 1.25V but it's still stuck at that volt with 3800MHz clock and won't down volt or down clock when idle, it's like P-States arn't even being acknowledged.

Another GREAT feature of this board as well is it won't wake from sleep and debug code of 00 (which isn't even listed in the debug codes) shows up after trying to reset/reboot the system and it just hangs requiring a hard shut down.


I'm in short patience now and just about ready to call the board a total POS, if this can't be sorted and fixed (sent a support request to MSI already) soon I will call it a piece of junk and never go near MSI again.......and I thought my Asrock X399 had a poor bios well this thing so far makes the Asrock look like Paradise.

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