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post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-07-2018, 01:26 PM
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If you have strong cooling then you'll want to add a BCLK increase to get more out of your CPU. Manipulating PE 3/4 will only get you so much until you adjust BCLK also. I've used PE 3 with a BCLK of 104 to reach 4.4GHz on all cores. It required very low ambient temps though -- cold weather with the window open.

If you want something more everyday then using PE 3 with BCLK 102 will allow you to get to 4.3GHz all core.
Thanks for your advice, I will be trying it out after work. Did you leave all your settings on auto otherwise?

And are you using bdie memory with high clocks? I am working with a 3600cl16 kit and I am still working to find the sweet spot where it works as rated with bclk overclock

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post #22 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-08-2018, 07:19 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks for your advice, I will be trying it out after work. Did you leave all your settings on auto otherwise?

And are you using bdie memory with high clocks? I am working with a 3600cl16 kit and I am still working to find the sweet spot where it works as rated with bclk overclock

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Actually, if you're increasing BCLK you'll probably want to use load line calibration level 4 and a + offset on the VCORE.

And I am running a 3600CL15 b-die kit at 14-15-14-14 when running at 3600MHz. I can't get 14-14-14-14 stable at speeds faster than 3500MHz.

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Actually, if you're increasing BCLK you'll probably want to use load line calibration level 4 and a + offset on the VCORE.

And I am running a 3600CL15 b-die kit at 14-15-14-14 when running at 3600MHz. I can't get 14-14-14-14 stable at speeds faster than 3500MHz.
Everytime I adjust bclk with any pbo setting, default all the way to 4, my system runs correctly for up to 70sec and then hangs up. This looks to be precisely after the algorithm begins lowering the multiplier of unused cores and boosts the single core, even for just having moved the mouse.

Given a synchronous 102bclk, PBO level 3, core performance boost enabled, stock digi+ settings save for CPU LLC level 4, a cpu offset of +0.025v, and a manual SOC of 1.05v, what am I doing wrong here?

Last time this occurred just now the display freezes. CPU vcore reported 1.537v, vrm vcore 1.504v, and SVI TFN cpu vcore 0.886v.

Am I tripping overvoltage?

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Everytime I adjust bclk with any pbo setting, default all the way to 4,
I'm sorry -- what do you mean when you say "default all the way to 4"?

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I'm sorry -- what do you mean when you say "default all the way to 4"?
any selection other than auto

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I mean:

Everytime I adjust bclk with any PBO setting, my system runs correctly for up to 70sec and then hangs up.

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I mean:

Everytime I adjust bclk with any PBO setting, my system runs correctly for up to 70sec and then hangs up.

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I gotcha.

Edit:

I went back and I think you may need to use a little more VCORE voltage offest and something more than just LLC 4. In Digi+ for CPU current use 130 and then use Extreme settings for the other VCORE settings.

I assume you've set minimum processor state in your power plan to a value less than 50%?

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Quote: Originally Posted by specialedge View Post
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Everytime I adjust bclk with any PBO setting, my system runs correctly for up to 70sec and then hangs up.

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Upto and equal to BCLK 101MHz I can keep CPU Core Voltage on [Auto], greater than BCLK 101MHz I need to use:-

CPU Core Voltage [Offset mode]
CPU Offset Mode Sign [+]
- CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]

Otherwise the CPU will only go upto VID: 1.275V, which can cause erratic hangs, etc. By setting CPU Core Voltage mode as offset+auto I gain back voltage curve as stock CPU would be.

Also set Core Performance Boost as Enabled, as when left on [Auto] and meddling with BCLK it can default to [Disabled], then you will not see PB/XFR2 clocking in action.

My CPU does not gain any voltage increases if I increase offset or LLC. This fits The Stilt's findings that the CPU SMU monitors effective voltage and controls it. Below is recent reruns of PE: Default PBO: Enabled BCLK: 102.2MHz.

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Upto and equal to BCLK 101MHz I can keep CPU Core Voltage on [Auto], greater than BCLK 101MHz I need to use:-



CPU Core Voltage [Offset mode]

CPU Offset Mode Sign [+]

- CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]



Otherwise the CPU will only go upto VID: 1.275V, which can cause erratic hangs, etc. By setting CPU Core Voltage mode as offset+auto I gain back voltage curve as stock CPU would be.



Also set Core Performance Boost as Enabled, as when left on [Auto] and meddling with BCLK it can default to [Disabled], then you will not see PB/XFR2 clocking in action.



My CPU does not gain any voltage increases if I increase offset or LLC. This fits The Stilt's findings that the CPU SMU monitors effective voltage and controls it. Below is recent reruns of PE: Default PBO: Enabled BCLK: 102.2MHz.







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What I was doing wrong was setting an offset voltage differential instead of leaving it on auto. Thank you for this. I will try it with offset+auto.

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