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post #21 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-12-2019, 05:25 AM - Thread Starter
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I used to use an AB350 gaming 3 as well before I had this kit. So can't say how far it's come.
However this particular kit (AX4U360038G17-ST41) hasn't played nice with my last 3. It's also seen a 2600 and a 2600x now, so I'm inclined to think it's the ram and not the board or the CPU.
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It's basically the ram that determines how well it will function in the end. IMC you can overcome by just cranking voltage, this Gigabyte board does not have a issue using 1.300V and above for SoC voltage.

The don't go above 1.200V touted everywhere is garbage if you ask me. (at least on this Gigabyte board)

As someone mentioned earlier if you get no errors and games just quit all of a sudden. Add more SoC voltage! This had solved it for me when I had issues running 3733Mhz earlier on F23 Agesa 1.0.0.4 bios. Had to use offset +0.240V to solve it, I had been using +0.186 earlier that worked otherwise(1.100V stock = 1.340V SoC)
Ageas 1.0.0.6 (F24 BIOS) needs less voltage I've seen now and the same +0.240V can run 3800Mhz(though still not error free, earlier I had to use +0.300V to just get to windows and then it froze constantly if I wanted to test my memory for errors(had already maximized my voltage the board allowed)

Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME, Ryzen 7 3800X 4.45Ghz, 4266/1900 MEM/FCLK, 16.26.19.48.76.tRFC 650 1T 1.58V
4x8Gb Kingston HX434C19FB2K2/16 3466C19 1.2V (Micron E-die 16nm)
OLD: Biostar x470GT8 Ryzen 7 1700 @ ~4.0Ghz CPU, 3200Mhz RAM ...
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Isn't that beyond safe limits for soc though?
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Isn't that beyond safe limits for soc though?
It is supposed to be so but Iv'e seen no degradation using high voltage yet for more than a year now.
I can note the voltage required varies with a cold or warm computer so after a short while the lower voltage might not work out as it does at start cold, but up it a few more clicks and it stays good even when getting warm and comfy.
The variation hasn't changed from when I started out and new BIOS has enabled me to lower the required SoC voltage now as well with Agesa 1.0.0.6.

Each CPU sample is different and the newer CPU:s around today don't require the amount my release date CPU needs. (processes have been improved since launch)

Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME, Ryzen 7 3800X 4.45Ghz, 4266/1900 MEM/FCLK, 16.26.19.48.76.tRFC 650 1T 1.58V
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OLD: Biostar x470GT8 Ryzen 7 1700 @ ~4.0Ghz CPU, 3200Mhz RAM ...
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Welps I guess I'll grab a cheap use x370 over an x470 if there's indeed no difference in mem OC capabilities.
I'm thinking x370 carbon pro or strix x370-f
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There are improvements on the B450 and X470 boards. It's just that Gigabyte kinda did it right the first go around. The others mostly fixed their issues on the new chipset. So you will have a better experience on the newer boards.

Some motherboards are just crap and won't run high speeds no matter what cpu or memory combo even cranking voltage.

My experience is 1 board. Does not apply for all 3xx series boards!

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Well I had the ab 350 gaming 3 but I didn't have a b-die ram kit back the first time.


And the b450 aorus m was actually doing poorer oc than the b350 before it
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