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post #21 of 498 (permalink) Old 07-04-2019, 01:05 PM
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Aorus Extreme comes without a fan

... and will be extremely expensive, unfortunately.
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Future Xtreme owner reporting in as well. Haven't pre-ordered yet (amazon US doesn't have it available yet, or I haven't been able to find it) but will be purchasing this weekend along with the 3900X. Tempted to hold off until Silicon Lottery releases pricing for their binned procs but still feel very confident the first wave of procs will all overclock quite well so I might just send it and see how I can do myself overclocking it. I was able to get my 1920X to 4.225ghz on all 12 cores/24 threads.

For reference, I will be replacing my Threadripper 1920X and Zenith Extreme for them which is this build:


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The Master has a Direct PWM setup, the Hero is using 7 phases with doubled up powerstages. If you aren't using LN2 (nobody does for a daily system, let's be realistic), provided the BIOS isn't completely buggy (it shouldn't be), then the 12-14 phases from the Infineon PWM on Gigabyte's Aorus Master or Xtreme will give you better ripple and allow you to shut off phases more granularity when not in use (i.e. achieving peak efficiency across the power delivery spectrum all the way down to idle).



Additionally the backplate on the Master is thermally conductive to the VRM section, whereas all you get on the Hero is a small brace at the back.


50A IR3556 has the same footprint as the 60A IR3555 so the main difference is maximum amperage rating. Even threadripper TR 2950X used around max 350W on ambient , so power quality is of more importance once you exceed 10 powerstages.

Also if you fail overclocks on memory the Aorus boards down to the Aorus Pro have dual BIOS, with Master/Xtreme having a switch. The single BIOS (SB) switch is invaluable since it physically isolates the BIOS chips. If you get hit with malware (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/as...ure,39072.html , https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/a...s-installation) or a flash a corrupt BIOS you don't need to RMA your board. I don't think that has been stated enough, since a corrupt BIOs on a non dual BIOS board has to still rely on flashing from USB. There were plenty of people that needed to RMA their Crosshair boards because the "Crashfree BIOS" or "BIOS flashback" doesn't work.

In terms of usability the M.2 heatshields being separate also makes it less of a hassle and the Hero only comes with 2x M.2.

In terms of integrated audio the Master is also stronger spec-wise, it uses ESS 9118 instead of ESS 9023P , has WIMA caps, and the audio codec is ALC1220-VB rather than ALC1220.

Every Master board comes with WIFI 6 +BT whereas the Hero has it as an option.

Great analysis. Totally missed that WIMA caps part (German film capacitors that audiophile community loves). Pretty excited about this board.

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Captain Aorus ***? Way better than captain marvel^^
nano-carbon coating with 3X thermal conductivity for the base plate [win for Captain AORUS in my book].
Maybe just stick one or two 40x40 mm copper water blocks on that back plate. Could save me from having
to buy a monoblock. What did Captain Marvel do for me lately ?



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Can’t find the Xtreme anywhere for sale. Newegg says 7/12 for stock. Ordered my 3900x and ready to go. C’mon!!!

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Ordered mine here in Sweden from Komplett.se says it will be in stock 11th july, price is brutal it´s 10.499 SEK which translates to 1 111,73 USD, oh well it's likely going to be the best X570 and has no fan. Will use it in my giant Xigmatek Elysium case with plenty of fans so chipset should run cool. Going to get a 3950X so the wait is on for that one.

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Launch day reviews
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Aorus Xtreme
https://hk.xfastest.com/31225/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme-xf-3900x-vs-9900k/
https://www.coolaler.com/threads/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme.356012/
https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x57...rboard-review/ --- may not be up yet?
https://en.ocworkbench.com/review-of...0x-processors/
http://pcdiy.com.tw/detail/13398
https://benchlife.info/gigabyte-x570...-3900x-review/

ocworkbench BIOS overview :
Spoiler!



Xtreme testing results



Aorus Master
https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x57...rboard-review/
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/...ster_review/23
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https://www.profesionalreview.com/20...master-review/ --- 36°C VRM at stock Prime95 with R7 3700X , not surprised
https://news.xfastest.com/review/rev...-aorus-master/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyl...3df4fcfd549--- used as the test board
https://www.kitguru.net/components/c...-cpu-review/3/ --- Test board
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Overclocking with 1.4V pushed the Ryzen 9 3900X very close to the throttling point with our Corsair H100X AIO. 4250MHz was the highest stable frequency that we could manage. 4300MHz was bootable and held Windows stability, however, Cinebench and Blender tests would throw up unusual errors.



Our manual overclocking (R7 3700x) experience was practically identical to that of the 3900X, though this time we were less thermally limited. 1.4V delivered 4.3GHz with the same unusual behaviour, while 4.25GHz allowed for complete stability. We managed to decrease the voltage further while maintaining stability.
https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/amd...700x-review/7/ --- used as test board to hit 4.3GHz
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We did manage to squeeze some PBO testing in, though, which increased the all-core boost from 4GHz out of the box to 4.125GHz using PBO and 4.15GHz by dialling a 200MHz uplift to the Automatic Overclocking feature - still lower than our manual overclock of 4.3GHz, but all while keeping the slightly higher maximum boost frequency. We didn't really see any activity beyond the latter (4.4GHz), though admittedly we didn't tweak any power limits, so gamers would likely want to stick to stock speed or make use of PBO and Automatic Overclocking, while content creators should consider dialling in a manual overclock.
https://tweakers.net/reviews/7192/10...-vermogen.html --- X570 Master test board pushed R9 3900X to 4.4GHz all cores

https://diit.cz/clanek/recenze-amd-r...do-mainstreamu --- used in review

https://thinkcomputers.org/gigabyte-...rboard-review/

https://techgage.com/article/amd-ryz...performance/2/ --- used for testing
https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/...e/1194631.html --- used for testing




Videos


BIOS overview
Spoiler!



Aorus Pro
https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x57...oard-review/6/ --- "Even managing to score the second highest score in PCMark 10"
https://www.techtesters.eu/gigabyte-...us-pro-review/


Aorus ITX : https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x57...rboard-review/ --- "It also set our highest score ever in PCMark 10, and our 3rd fastest (fastest for X570) score in WPrime!"
https://www.coolaler.com/threads/ryz..._9600k.356016/

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Who ordered the 3900x and where from????? I can't find one anywhere but the bloodsuckers on ebay.
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