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post #6201 of 6372 (permalink) Old 02-14-2020, 05:31 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
Not so fast... You made the claim, now explain how an unplugged and unpowered component not connected to the system in question (or any PC) is responsible for the noise the system is making. How far away do I need to move it before it will no longer affect the Aorus X570 motherboard? Do I need to put it in the garage in a Faraday cage?
Some people in this thread have observed coil whine coming from the vrm area of the motherboard. My x570 Master also has low volume but high pitched whine if I take the rear side panel off and stick my ear directly over it. Sounds pretty similar to your recording but not noticeable when panels are on and system is running.

I think the issues vary so some boards will have louder whine than others so it's basically up to you how tolerable it is.

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The system already only has the bare minimum necessary to run (CPU, mobo, RAM, graphics card, SSD, HSF, & PSU). It makes the same coil whine noise running non-Windows software from a USB stick without the SSD in the system. It's absolutely coming from the VRM area on the mobo, not the PSU or graphics card. AFAIK there aren't any other components in the system with coils and DC/DC converters. Top or bottom side of the mobo doesn't make any difference to me. It's unacceptably loud. I'm really only trying to figure out if I should exchange it for another one of the same model or something else.
I can tell you from experience it's NOT the norm with the Pro Wifi to have much coil whine noise if any. I can't hear any coil whine with my Pro WiFi and it's loaded to the hilt with add-ons but some folks do. I guess it comes down to how loud is tolerable to you. If you are positive it is from the VRM and it's quite noticeable then RMA it for another.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
The system already only has the bare minimum necessary to run (CPU, mobo, RAM, graphics card, SSD, HSF, & PSU). It makes the same coil whine noise running non-Windows software from a USB stick without the SSD in the system. It's absolutely coming from the VRM area on the mobo, not the PSU or graphics card. AFAIK there aren't any other components in the system with coils and DC/DC converters. Top or bottom side of the mobo doesn't make any difference to me. It's unacceptably loud. I'm really only trying to figure out if I should exchange it for another one of the same model or something else.
Coil whine is a perfectly acceptable reason to RMA a board or graphics card.
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post #6204 of 6372 (permalink) Old 02-14-2020, 09:33 PM
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I can tell you from experience it's NOT the norm with the Pro Wifi to have much coil whine noise if any. I can't hear any coil whine with my Pro WiFi and it's loaded to the hilt with add-ons but some folks do. I guess it comes down to how loud is tolerable to you. If you are positive it is from the VRM and it's quite noticeable then RMA it for another.
I have tried 3 different Pro Wifis, and they all had the exact same coil whine that Stereodude is experiencing. I also tried a Aorus Ultra and Aorus Master, and while the Master was a tad bit quieter, it was still very similar to what I've been dealing with all these months. I feel as though something is being overlooked because it'll be such an oddball fix

Shouldn't a pure sinewave UPS solve any power delivery problems what might be present in my apartment?
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Quote: Originally Posted by kribby View Post
I have tried 3 different Pro Wifis, and they all had the exact same coil whine that Stereodude is experiencing. I also tried a Aorus Ultra and Aorus Master, and while the Master was a tad bit quieter, it was still very similar to what I've been dealing with all these months. I feel as though something is being overlooked because it'll be such an oddball fix
This isn't making me feel better about my odds of getting one that's quieter or even silent... I'm going to try to get back to Microcenter in the morning to exchange it.

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Shouldn't a pure sinewave UPS solve any power delivery problems what might be present in my apartment?
Yes if it's an online UPS that always does double conversion. However, power delivery problems are generally not what causes coil whine. Certainly not in a motherboard or video card.
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Edit - I switched to an Msi Unify and it has the same issue with coil whine from the vrm and noise from the ssd

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Here’s a video recording of the coil whine on my X570 master. This is whilst the system is idle, straight after logging into windows, using the ryzen balanced power mode. For the purpose of the video I unplugged all fans (no heavy load on cpu), so you can hear it clearly.

On intel systems we can disable cstates to quieten the noise, yet I’ve tried toggling many options in the aorus X570 bios - to no avail, including cool and quiet, vrm frequency, spread spectrum and c-state.

It seems to resonate throughout the whole board, no matter where I hold the microphone. The recording was done on an iPhone 8 with built in mic and has not been edited / amplified.

When I scroll webpages the noise makes a grinding sound.

I resorted to placing acoustic foam around my hard drives as they are chirping and are making high pitch sounds - which I never knew was possible until I got the aorus master.

Some people claim they may not hear it but if you built your system in a quiet room / with quietness in mind, it can become annoying.

Chipset fan : silent (off)
Hard drives connected : 2 x ssd
Graphics card : fans turned off
Power supply : tried two power supplies, Corsair rm 850 and rm 850x (no difference to the coil whine)

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Electrical noise is kinda "normal" these days. It's down to the components and parts interacting with each other causing these issues. You just end up whit combinations that make more noise than others on different boards. You either exchange board or manufacturer to another that doesn't exhibit the issue with your components to other than the ones making noise. It's random lottery. I don't think the manufacturers prioritize this issue in design and Quality Assurance. It's kinda a high task to ask the manufacturers to take this into mind if they accept a solution as "working" as intended or not.

I have a Biostar X470GT8 that is horrible with it. Never seen a board make so much noise. My Gigabyte boards have been silent in comparison. Though in stressed situations even some of these start to make noise.

Basically, the more power the more noise usually. Same with graphics cards. Some make no noise others make lots of noise. I've usually been okay with those but I found my new Vega 64 has been much noisier than any other I've had in the past. But it's also the most power hungry card I've owned.

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No coil wine with my 2 PRO atx non wifi models. Both with Corsair hxi 750 psu if that plays any role.

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well i have started it but i do not have time to finish it as i have to go out with the wife to a wedding party, booo

I moved the NVME gigabyte HS plate from the top to the middle since it had some nice text on there and you can now see it as the CPU HS covered it and also did the GFX card, I still put the Mp510 NVME in the top slot but when the GFX is in you can still see the text just.

I noticed the nut came with the screw when i removed the HS plate so i had to get some pliers to remove it from the screw and then replaced it

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No coil wine with my 2 PRO atx non wifi models. Both with Corsair hxi 750 psu if that plays any role.
I also have NO coil whine and I am also using a Corsair HXI series Power Supply.

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Hard Drive
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