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post #231 of 1428 (permalink) Old 07-20-2019, 12:39 PM
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Running hero VIII wifi + 3700x + 4x BLE8G4D36BEEAK + on AIO Water 3.0 upgraded fans to SW3 PWM + 3 additional SW3 PWM in the case.

haven't upgraded since FX-9590 black so I'm totally green with OC but would like to have the system run nicely - some gaming and video editing (premiere)
I don't need max OC just a daily rider. Can someone point me to a decent guide?

Also, I installed Asus AI Suite 3 and Ryzen Master should I just keep 1?
What bios version should I be running?
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Quote: Originally Posted by peteone43 View Post
Hello, new here

Running hero VIII wifi + 3700x + 4x BLE8G4D36BEEAK + on AIO Water 3.0 upgraded fans to SW3 PWM + 3 additional SW3 PWM in the case.

haven't upgraded since FX-9590 black so I'm totally green with OC but would like to have the system run nicely - some gaming and video editing (premiere)
I don't need max OC just a daily rider. Can someone point me to a decent guide?

Also, I installed Asus AI Suite 3 and Ryzen Master should I just keep 1?
What bios version should I be running?

I just watched this video and it seemed to explain a lot about overclocking and Precision Boost Overdrive for the 3700X. I know it's a different board, but the settings are the same. Seems like everyone's using Ryzen Master. 0702 is the latest BIOS. Welcome!

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Guys, what Vcore for 4,3ghz on 3900x? I mean on load, not on idle with for example LLC2?

I can't push to 4,3 and 1,35v (1,287 under load)

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You mean this right?


Well, I see your point, though the manual seems to suggest that it's not possible to use the second port for a single card setup. And, in any case, PCIe 4.0 x8 should technically offer about the same bandwidth as a PCIe 3.0 x16 port, isn't that right?

I'm so persistent on this matter simply because that would be an easy workaround for the high temperatures of the X570 chipset on our boards, wouldn't you agree?
Oh of course I agree with your desired approach, it only makes sense. If you have a PCIe 4.0 GPU then yes PCIe 4.0 x8 will be equivalent bandwidth to PCIe 3.0 x16. If you have a PCIe 3.0 GPU then it will only run at PCIe 3.0 x8 in that slot.

These are the downsides of mainstream CPUs... they just don't have enough lanes. Coming from an HEDT platform it's a bit of a disappointment.
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Oh of course I agree with your desired approach, it only makes sense. If you have a PCIe 4.0 GPU then yes PCIe 4.0 x8 will be equivalent bandwidth to PCIe 3.0 x16. If you have a PCIe 3.0 GPU then it will only run at PCIe 3.0 x8 in that slot.

These are the downsides of mainstream CPUs... they just don't have enough lanes. Coming from an HEDT platform it's a bit of a disappointment.
I'm planning on getting a Radeon RX 5700XT next month, once custom cards are available, so I'll probably end up doing that, at least as far as it's feasible.

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Why disable armour crate? Why not just have it closed until you need it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/a...s-installation

Basically if you want to do some benchmarking all the background services can throw the numbers out resulting in lower scores...

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Hey guys this is one of the boards I'm considering vs the Gigabyte Master due to the number of USB port support on the rear since it loses a front panel USB 3.x (I have 4 ports on my case plus a type C), but also am interested since all of its ports are 3.x where the Gigabyte has 4 2.0's on the I/O panel.

The big thing I was wondering is how the chipset fan noise is on this? Can you hear it over "standard" case fans that are running at say 1/2 speed or so via fan profiles? I know the Gigabyte board has 3 profiles the chipset fan can be set to but I can't find any info like that on the Asus boards. If it helps at all, my build will be using an H500M from Coolermaster with the stock 140 x 1, 200 x 2, and 3x120 (unsure of model yet) on a 360 radiator for water cooling.

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Guys, what Vcore for 4,3ghz on 3900x? I mean on load, not on idle with for example LLC2?

I can't push to 4,3 and 1,35v (1,287 under load)

I ended up with a 43X multiplier for all-core OC at 1.29V which is achieved with a +0.2V offset. Using LLC3 for cpu and soc. The base voltage for the 43X ends up at 1.09V on my 3900X plus my offset nets 1.29V. End up at 1.25-1.26V under load with the LLC3. Stable and running 24/7 BOINC Seti load since I put it back to crunching. Memory is at my previous stable clock of 3466CL14 Fast timings. Couldn't get the memory to go faster but the news today that the Calculator is wrong for Zen 2 was probably the reason I could not achieve 3533 or 3600.

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Guys, what Vcore for 4,3ghz on 3900x? I mean on load, not on idle with for example LLC2?

I can't push to 4,3 and 1,35v (1,287 under load)


The reviewer in the video I posted used maxed LLC and 1.4V for 4.35GHz on a 3700X, so I think you're on the right track. I would try to increase LLC and go from there.

Quote: Originally Posted by flyinion View Post
Hey guys this is one of the boards I'm considering vs the Gigabyte Master due to the number of USB port support on the rear since it loses a front panel USB 3.x (I have 4 ports on my case plus a type C), but also am interested since all of its ports are 3.x where the Gigabyte has 4 2.0's on the I/O panel.

The big thing I was wondering is how the chipset fan noise is on this? Can you hear it over "standard" case fans that are running at say 1/2 speed or so via fan profiles? I know the Gigabyte board has 3 profiles the chipset fan can be set to but I can't find any info like that on the Asus boards. If it helps at all, my build will be using an H500M from Coolermaster with the stock 140 x 1, 200 x 2, and 3x120 (unsure of model yet) on a 360 radiator for water cooling.

I can't hear it at all, even under full load. There are no manual adjustments available on the chipset fan from Asus. Good luck in your decision.

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