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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 10:57 AM - Thread Starter
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Boycott MSI Motherboards for deceptive practices.

See the link about MSI will release new "MAX" version that left us cold, https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph...n-von-msi.html

I have MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon with 16MB ROM with lemon. I feel my mobo is kind of EOL, I bought it last year around Dec 2018 till now.

MSI release new motherboard A320 MAX, B450 MAX, X470 MAX with 32MB ROM Bios out of blue.

That is not fair for us and MSI insults us with beta bios with older boards “GSE-lite” ROM without warnings.


1. Misleading promise launch 7/7 for Ryzen 3000 ready out of box with stable bios, We still have beta bios.

2. GSE-lite with less graphics and icons that not what I paid for, I paid for with full features that come with. That’s lemon.

3. Raid function is broken.

4. OC profiles in bios is missing.

5. MSI failed inform to us in advance about 16MB ROM problem beforehand on launch for Ryzen 3000.

6. MSI knew it that we are screaming at them “Will new bios for my mobo and ryzen 3000 works?” all over place, MSI is lack of communication with forum users and keep stall with us.

7. MSI knew it about 16MB ROM limitation and quick make new motherboard MAX versions now with 32MB with fancy GUI.

8. We demand receive the compensation checks or swap all old A320, B450, X470 for new MAX versions with 32MB ROM for free.


Will you buy MSI motherboard again or different brand next time ?

Some people didn't care about GSE-lite, I do care that what I paid for.

I hope someone will file lawsuit against MSI this serious matters. Please spread this message where else.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 11:01 AM
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Sorry to hear you didn't get what you paid for. Have you considered reaching out to the better business bureau? It's not much but it's a start.

Unfortunately this has become standard practice across several industries. It's going to be difficult to purchase any PC parts if you boycott all who have wronged consumers in the past.


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NOOO!!! I was waiting on the 3950X and planning to go with MSI X570 to match my GPU...
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I think a lot of B450 boards have 16MB, at least Aorus B450 does.

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They didn't promise Zen 3rd gen support.


Also they have provided support via a cut down BIOS to put into the small BIOS chip. Sure it might be less flashy but if it gets the job done I don't see a point in complaining about it.


You won't be able to open a lawsuit unless you can prove damages by the way.

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I don't see a problem..... at least they are offering support and you don't have to upgrade the board to support ryzen 3000 series..... after all it's just a bios.. you enter the bios change a few settings and never return for another year. The only downside I see is that it breaks RAID support.

I think you're over reacting a little here because MSI isn't the only manufacturer with a 16mb bios chip in x370/x470 board.

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I am also worried that MSI (and the other vendors that cheaped out on their BIOS chips) will not support the next Zen 3 chip which was supposed to work on older AM4 boards. At least that was a promise AMD communicated publicly and I just bought a board three weeks ago in good faith that it would support Zen 3, too. If I had known that a new revision would be around the corner which will get this support, I would have waited longer or would have bought a cheaper board which I would need to replace anyway in the future.
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Honestly MSI and Gigabyte have been the best w.r.t. this launch. At least they are actively working to fix the issues and are responsive to the community, unlike Asus or Asrock.
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