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post #71 of 458 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 04:33 AM
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I updated windows last night and now about 4 cores will hit 4.5. I haven't changed anything in BIOS since update. However, when I run cb15 all cores stop at 4.0. You notice anything like this nighthog?
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post #72 of 458 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 05:41 AM
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I updated windows last night and now about 4 cores will hit 4.5. I haven't changed anything in BIOS since update. However, when I run cb15 all cores stop at 4.0. You notice anything like this nighthog?
I have about ~2cores on my sample that can hit ~4.5Ghz @ stock PB usually but all-core boost depends on your cooling as it's temperature sensitive. I think the threshold is ~80C mentioned about here elsewhere when the algorithm will start to lower boost to try find a balance.
If your temps are high it isn't unusual to get low boost in all-core load.
I have custom water and I would get ~4.3Ghz tops in CB R15 @ stock. R20 was around ~4.225-4.250Ghz if I recall correctly.

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DELETE it broke....

EDIT: had a discourse on how PBO was working but a bios setting change and reboot it stopped working... great...

Either way PBO - 1-10X scalar adjusts the voltage in 0.006V steps for multi-core load... 10x = +0.060V for multicore but something broke and it didn't boost any more, just increased the voltage.
At first it also gave ~50Mhz extra for all core boost but that vanished after a change and I can't get it back to boost. Just increases voltage and temperature but still same boost behaviour as stock.
It didn't effect single-core boost only multicore boost when it was boosting.

Was a 100% fresh BIOS from a Q-flash F3I BIOS

Really sad even if it was a modest boost. Thinking it actually worked fine for once but seems it breaks with some other settings and doesn't get back to working afterwards when changing back.

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So it’s seems like 3800x is working as promised, hopefully 3950x will be better binned and will be able to reach 4.7. My feelings that 7nm is a newborn so maybe I’ll wait until next stepping will be released on 7p.
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On a separate note...

Has anyone figured a trick out to unlink the ARGB ports and/or the RGB ports within RGBFusion?



I'm finding it quite annoying that these ports need to link up and be the same color. Should be able to set colors individually from one another.

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Does Gigabyte make an Auros Extreme TR board?

EDIT: nm, just checked..

I'm thinking of selling off my X570 board and waiting for TR and getting the Auros Extreme TR4

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Too many unknowns on the upcoming Threadippers yet.

By the way - the F3i BIOS doesn't work well here, when rebotting it sometimes takes 2-3 tries before the motherboard POSTs, even without OC. I can make a short vid on which codes it cycles if needed.

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Does Gigabyte make an Auros Extreme TR board?

EDIT: nm, just checked..

I'm thinking of selling off my X570 board and waiting for TR and getting the Auros Extreme TR4
I just came from Threadripper.

Based on how the 2nd gen Non X Threadrippers were rebranded first gens with higher frequencies, and the X's were the actual 2nd gens but with way higher core counts, I just couldn't stomach anything more than 16 cores and pay extra for something that wouldn't be utilized.

That is exactly what will happen here with the 3rd gen Threadripper.

What is the point of a new Threadripper that is 12 core or 16 core now? The ONLY thing that will mean much is if they retain their 60+4 pcie lanes.

Which means those who want TR this time around are looking to replace their current 20+ core setups and 90% of people don't need that many cores.

I loved Threadripper and the idea of it, and I loved that performance got a ton better since release, over many updates and that they didn't give up on it, but with Ryzen 3000 and the upcoming 3950X, the initial target market for 1st gen TR will be lost.

And their sales numbers just won't be the same.

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I've gotten 4600/1900 Memory to boot and run some preliminary testing that it can be workable in 2x8Gb configuration.

Just need to tune timings and such as I ran them up to see what frequencies where possible.

4x8Gb I could only run up-to 4066Mhz bootable/stable thus far.

Seems these memory kits I had were better than I had thought possible and had more to give.

Currently on 18-27-20-20-56-90 for example @ 4600Mhz. CL18 needs 1.53Volts at this speed.

Still the same Micron E-die.

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So considering I'll be on PCIe 4.0 either way, what NVMe drive would be better? Strictly for a gaming rig: the Samsung 970 1Tb Pro, or the Aorus 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 drive?

EDIT: The 970 Pro has the lowest latency in a high percentage of tests while the Aorus has the highest Read and Writes. I don't know if either of these would help in any way for a gaming rig.

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