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post #101 of 111 (permalink) Old 09-29-2019, 01:09 PM
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Does anyone have the Gskill 3600c15 working with the x570 Master ? it is not in the memory support list, should it matter?

I am having errors all the time, even trying to set it to its defaults 3600c15 (gear down disable to get odd latency)
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@Belcebuu are the older TridentZ Samsung B-die based kit that you are using. You might need to add more vDIMM to get the stable with XMP.

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GIGABYTE AORUS DDR4-5000 @18-27-27-38-115 @1.55v
Ryzen 9 3900X
GIGABYTE X570 AROUS Xtreme

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Hi,


Every time I shutdown the computer, power off the PSU, then restart the computer I get the following in the event viewer:


Event 29, Kernel-Boot
Windows failed fast startup with error status 0xC00000D4.


Event 6008, EventLog

The previous system shutdown at 8:48:37 PM on ‎9/‎10/‎2019 was unexpected.



Event 41, Kernel-Power
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.


3800x, x570 Aorus Master F6, 970 Evo plus 1TB M.2, Windows 10 1093, latest chipset drivers etc.
Check "Fast Start" option on windows 10 shutdown and disabled it, if it is enabled.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Belcebuu View Post
Does anyone have the Gskill 3600c15 working with the x570 Master ? it is not in the memory support list, should it matter?

I am having errors all the time, even trying to set it to its defaults 3600c15 (gear down disable to get odd latency)
I got mine to work with XMP but didn't bother to check for stability because the secondary timings are very loose and voltages are lower then what it needs for Ryzen. The Fast preset from the Ryzen calculator was stable enough.
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Hi everyone, was wondering if anyone can help.

I've got a Ryzen 3600 on an Aorus Elite x570 with the Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200MHz DDR4 kit.

My problem is that the MB won't always apply the XMP settings. To be more exact, if I go into BIOS, the XMP profile will be showing as enabled. If I save and exit, the memory runs at the correct overclocked speeds. If I restart again and don't go into BIOS, the memory reverts to base settings. If then I go into BIOS again, the XMP will still show as enabled and if I save and exit, it works once again.

I have my sticks in the correct (A2 B2) slots. I've tried with them in different slots, and I've also tried with only 1 stick.

I've tried this on BIOS F4 and F5a, same issue. I haven't yet updated to the latest one.

Is this a BIOS issue? Anything else that I can try?
In the gigabyte forum this problem was reported by some users, they found a bug and a workaround:
http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/7863...t-issue-boards
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Cinebench R15 - Ryzen 3950X and X570 AORUS Master

at stock: 3,932
4.3GHz: 4,384
4.4GHz: 4,475

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Gigabyte X570 Overclocker Guide
https://www.gigabyte.com/FileUpload/...le/548/988.pdf



Chapter 2: How to Overclock Your 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen CPU
For reference we are using a GIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER motherboard, an AMD Ryzen 9
3950X processor, 16GB AORUS DDR4 3200Mhz, and a liquid cooler, the EK-KIT P360.
Based on our testing the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X can hit around 4.3 GHz using around 1.4V Vcore.
In this guide we will be targeting a frequency of 4.3GHz on all the cores from a stock
frequency of 3.3 GHz.

Disclaimer: Overclocking will technically void your warranty. While it’s usually safe, there is
potential to damage the chip if you push voltages too high.
Taking Your CPU to the Next Level – Overclocking
Simply follow the steps below and you’ll be enjoying your overclocked Ryzen powerhouse in
no time.

Although AMD Ryzen 9 3950X processors have a Max Boost frequency of 4.7 GHz, that only
applies on two cores. Our goal is to overclock all 16 cores of this part at the maximum
possible speed.

■Step 1: Enter the BIOS
Enter the BIOS by restarting your computer and pressing the “delete” button before the OS
launches.

■ Step 2: Enter “Tweaker” tab
Change your “CPU Clock Ratio” to “43.00”. A CPU clock ratio of 43 multiplied by 100
which is our default “CPU Clock Control” gives you a frequency of 4300 MHz.
The CPU comes with a default CPU frequency of 3300 MHz, which means that it has a
default “CPU Clock Ratio” of “33.00” and a default “CPU Clock Control” of “100”.
Interesting fact! We noticed that if you look in CPU-Z while running at default clocks, the
frequency jumps up and down. This is the power saving settings at work. Once you
overclock and increase your “CPU Clock Ratio” to any value above the default setting of
“33.00” the measured frequency stops going up and down.
Different from Intel’s, “CPU Clock Ratio” can be adjusted in increments of 0.25x instead
of 1.0x. For example “CPU Clock Ratios” of 33.25, 33.50, 33.75 etc are possible.




■Step 3: Adjust Your Voltage Settings
Now we have tuned almost all the features and the frequencies of our CPU but in order
for the CPU to work at a higher speed it needs to be supplied with higher voltage. Go to
the starting BIOS page (Tweaker) and scroll down to the voltage options.

3a. Change CPU Vcore: Raising this helps keep the system stable at higher CPU frequencies.
However, it also increases the amount of heat your CPU produces. We suggest you to keep Vcore
from 1.3 to 1.45v when overclocking to around 4 GHz–however—CPUs differ, some require higher
voltages to be stable, some lower. There’s a large component of luck involved.

3b. Adjust the rest of the Voltage Settings if necessary These are the same settings that exist on
the previous AMD Chipset motherboards too. For a little extra boost in stability while overclocking
we suggest you to try to change VCORE SOC up to 1.20-1.25 volts when using standard air or liquid cooling.
If you use a PCIe4.0 device try to avoid this adjustment on the VCORE SOC voltage.
For CPU VDD18 you can adjust it up to 2.0 volts and for CPU VDDP up to +0.2 volts
if this is required from the CPU you are testing. It wasn’t necessary for us.
The PM_CLDO12, PM_1VSOC and the PM_1V8 you can adjust them up to 1.25V, 1.2V and 1.84V if your system
is not stable without them at Auto.

3b. Adjust the rest of the Voltage Settings if necessary
These are the same settings that exist on the previous AMD Chipset motherboards too.
For a little extra boost in stability while overclocking we suggest you to try to change
VCORE SOC up to 1.20-1.25 volts when using standard air or liquid cooling. If you use a
PCIe 4.0 device try to avoid this adjustment on the VCORE SOC voltage. For CPU VDD18
you can adjust it up to 2.0 volts and for CPU VDDP up to +0.2 volts if this is required from
the CPU you are testing. It wasn’t necessary for us. The PM_CLDO12, PM_1VSOC and the
PM_1V8 you can adjust them up to 1.25V, 1.2V and 1.84V if your system is not stable
without them at Auto.

3c. Adjust CPU Loadline Calibration Setting
If you need some extra stability adjust this setting to either “High” or “Turbo”. You may
notice that after this adjustment your CPU Vcore is higher. This option is located in the
“Advanced Voltage Settings” submenu.

■Step 4: Optimize Your Memory Settings
There are two different methods of optimizing your memory settings, the easy way is
through the Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) option, and the more difficult way is
through manually adjusting your ram settings.

4a. Easy Way
Go back to the “Tweaker” starting page. Here you see the “Extreme Memory Profile
(X.M.P.)” option. Enable it. The system will choose the optimal memory frequency and
DRAM timings for you.

4b. More Difficult Way
AMD now supports higher memory dividers. Select the frequency that your memory sticks
run at. Since X.M.P. is not enabled, your memory timings will be automatically set by the
CPU. Next, go back to “Tweaker” and adjust the DRAM Voltage option. Set your DRAM
Voltage to your specific memory module’s recommended voltage setting.
Now that you’ve set your overclocks, it’s time to make sure that your system is stable!

Chapter 3: Stability Testing & Results
Congratulations! You have obtained a clock rate of around 4 GHz. Now it’s time to make
sure that it’s stable. We’re going to use the software below to monitor our system,
stability test, and adjust our overclocks.
Prime95 – This is used to stress test our CPU in order to ensure that it’s stable in the
most taxing of conditions.
CPU-Z – Used to monitor our CPU frequencies. Latest version is preferred.
HWiNFO – Used to monitor idle and load temperatures and Vcore settings.

How to Stability Test
■ Step 1: Prepare Stability Testing and Monitoring Applications
Open up CPU-Z, HWiNFO, and Prime95 so you are able to stress test and monitor CPU
temperature, frequency, and memory timings all on the same screen. Disable the AVX
options or if you want to test AVX, you will obtain lower frequencies since the load on
the CPU will be much higher.



■ Step 2 : Start Prime95
After starting the Prime95 torture test, highlight the Prime95 tray icon—all cores
should say “self-test”, if it shows “not working” that means that specific core has failed
to pass the test. Another form of failing the stability test is that your system may simply
just reboot or freeze, which means your settings were too aggressive and your CPU has
failed the stability test. We normally test Prime95 for 30 minutes. This duration can be
increased for more assurance.

■ Step 3a (Fail) : Close Prime95
Close Prime95 by right clicking the Prime95 icon on the tray bar in the lower right side
of your screen and selecting “Exit”. This closes Prime95.

■ Step 3b (Fail) : Adjust Frequency or Voltage
Now it’s time to adjust your frequency or voltage settings. You can do this either
through the BIOS or using EasyTune which is available through the GIGABYTE App
Center. You have two options: Either increase CPU Vcore or decrease “CPU Clock
Control”. We recommend you to stay under 95° C on your CPU along with a CPU Vcore
below 1.45 volts if possible. After making adjustments go back to Step 1. If it continues
to fail, dial down your “CPU Clock Control” until you pass stability testing.


■ Step 4 (Success): Enjoy Overclock or Increase Frequency
Congratulations, your current overclock is stable. You may want to try for a higher
frequency. To do so, experiment with raising your CPU Clock Control and CPU Vcore
settings either in BIOS or EasyTune and go back to Step 1 for stability testing to ensure
that it’s stable.



Thermals
We ran tests using a liquid cooling setup at different voltages and frequencies using an
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to show the difference in thermal performance. As you can see with
our liquid cooling setup the temperatures are similar than what we were getting last year
using a Ryzen 7 2700X.



Buildzoid "spreadsheet" video overclocking 3700X on MSI X570 Godlike

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In the gigabyte forum this problem was reported by some users, they found a bug and a workaround:
http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/7863...t-issue-boards
This was fixed in latest BIOS'
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GIGABYTE AMD X570 Ryzen Overclocking Guide
https://www.tweaktown.com/guides/922...ide/index.html
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Missing Settings

Hello

My BIOS doesn't have the menu item settings -> AMD Overclocking. My settings page matches what is in chapter 2-5 of the manual on page 48:

Platform Power
IO Ports
Miscellaneous
AMD CBS

PC Health
Smart Fan 5

It there something I missed to get that enabled? I first installed F7b and then tried installing F6 and it didn't have it either, both from the website. On the Aorus owner's post I installed F7c and don't see it there either.

I have a 2700 installed, maybe due to the processor?
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I ran into this guide this morning and didn't want to comment on it. I like TweakTown but this guide isn't the best. As in I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

Seem very intel-centric approaching of overclocking on an AMD platform. Reminds on what happened with Hardware Review sites during the Phenom II days.



Quote:
At this point, you will move on to harder benchmarks and Prime 95, in the end our CPU can only do about 4.1GHz with Prime95, although Blender benchmark will pass with these settings. It's up to you whether you will run Prime95 or other harsh stability testing programs, as they can damage the CPU, these programs we used for stability testing are designed must like other software that would be used every day. If you have any problems overclocking, you can comment on this article and we will help you out.
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/guides/922...de/index6.html

Doesn't seem their overclock does a better than AMD's PB2 algorithm which doesn't void the CPUs warranty. So, what is the point.


Flowchart is nice but I don't think it is ideal method of getting the most out of Matisse Processors (reduce performance bottlenecks).


VCore : 1.325V high-current loads max (All-Core, heavy thread workloads) after VDroop (I didn't experience enough VDroop to make 1.40v fix voltage safe).
CPU_SoC 1.20v max (really don't need over 1.10v)
VDDP : 900-950mv
VDDG : 950mv


I would guess TweakTown had voltages too high causes performance degradation. Besides excess volts causing more heat which will cause things to throttle faster.

"The FCLK not only gets unstable around ~1800MHz (3600MHz DRAM speed) but it can degrade performance if unstable since there can be a penalty from error correction mechanisms"






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[AHOC] Overclocking 4x8GB of 3000MHz CL15 Crucial Ballistix on a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme with a 3700X


[AHOC] Follow up to the X570 Xtreme + 4x8GB Crucial Ballistix overclocking

Overclocking History (Click to show)
Intel 386DX/16 @ 20 MHz
CX486SLC/50 @ 50 MHz
AM486DX2/80 @ 100 MHz
AM486 DX4-100 @ 120 MHz
AK5x86-P75 [email protected] 160 MHz
Pentium 90 @ 120 Mhz
IBM 6x86L P166+ [email protected] 160 MHz
Celeron 300a @ 454 MHz
Pentium 3 700 @ 933 MHz
Athlon XP 1400+ @ 1600 MHz
Athlon XP 1800+ @ 2088 MHz
Athlon XP 2500+ @ 2200 MHz
Athlon 64 3000+ @ 2603 MHz
Athlon X2 BE2300 @ 1900 MHz
Athlon X2 4200+ @ 2210 MHz
Athlon X2 5000+ @ 2600 MHz
Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3000 MHz
Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3600 MHz
Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 4000 MHz
Xeon C2Q L5408 @ 3200 MHz
Xeon C2Q X5450 @ 3300 MHz
Xeon C2Q E5440 @ 3400 MHz
Xeon C2Q E5450 @ 3600 MHz
Phenom2 X4 B50 @ 3700 MHz
Phenom2 X6 1045T @ 4050 MHz
Core i5-2500K Sandy @ 4500 MHz
X5650 6-Core Westmere @ 3982 MHz
AMD FX 8320E Black Edition

FX-8320E @4.5GHz, X5650 @ 4.0GHz, X6 1045T @4.0GHz, i7 [email protected]
Thinkpad T420p with i7-2720QM overclocked because this is OCN
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