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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-21-2019, 06:50 PM - Thread Starter
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looking for a ryzen 3000 board

So my current PC is getting old and struggling to keep up. I am looking to build a new one and have decided on Ryzen 3000. I am either going with the 3600 or maybe if I feel it warrants it, the 3700x. I am thinking of sticking with x570 boards as I don't have any other ryzen chips to install a new bios. The dilemma i am in is in picking what price point to stick with. Do I stay at $200 price point and pick either a Gigabyte Elite Wifi, Asus TUF Wifi, or MSI Gaming Edge? Would it make sense to go to the $250 price point and step up to either the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon or Gigabyte Pro Wifi? My system will have 4 SATA devices and an NVME drive. I need it to have Wifi and decent audio. I am not so concerned about the ability to have two graphics cards. Maybe the $200 Asrock x470 Taichi would be ok as well. What do you think? I have been out of the market for quite some time. My current system is a 3770k.

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for me the best bang for the buck is the Aorus X570 Elite, it has good vrm's and nice board design with plenty of connections and its good for the price around 200 dollars. it drives my 3700x with no problem.

check out this review


also this one for comparisons from different board on the vrm's


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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-21-2019, 08:11 PM
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I just got myself a ASUS x370 ROG Crosshair VI Hero for my Zen 2 build. It was on sale for 95€ new and works flawless with my [email protected] and 2x8GB Ballistix Sports @3800MhzCL16. Unless you really need any of the features on x570 I dont see any point in spending the extra money. Some boards like the C6H have a Bios flashback feature and allow you to update the bios without a CPU installed.

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Quite honestly, we worry too much about VRM design for a 7nm cpu
This thing doesn't pull more then 2nd gen , while there was for a reason the debate about bad VRM design for a highly OCd 2700 that pulls 200W

I am happy with the Taichi lineup, cheaper and better VRMs ~ or the crosshair lineup / cheap used and still higly supportive by the community
When it come to X570 Gigabyte, i wouldn't go under the Pro series, purely because of better current suply for OC
But then for people who anyways may not push borders (imo you likely won't pull over 150W unless you rly go in)
anything on B450 level was quite fine

Get some board that has flashback to save you the hassle - or go full out, to be ready for powerhungry (hopefully) 4th gen, with high quality and clean VRMs
Just then again, unless you clearly insist in Chipset 4.0 for NVMe raid or M.2 4.0 NVMe's for Video Editing
(as over 2GB/s rly it doesn't matter and likely won't matter for games before 2022)

Yes unless there is a very special usecase, or you want to go all out on an upcomming high Wattage Navi
I don't think that it's worth paying that 150$ pcb premium for X570 (no VRMs included at all)

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I'll look at B450 boards with bios flashback and see what I come up with. Thanks

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Quote: Originally Posted by chas1723 View Post
I'll look at B450 boards with bios flashback and see what I come up with. Thanks
At least it's when you don't need pcie 4.0
You can look for 2000 series OC reviews , which board handles the 2700X for example - as that one can push 180W+


That way it's easy to separate good boards from bad boards
but X370 is also an option, just that the seller or SI needs to update the bios for you

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I dropped the Gigabyte Aurus Elite as it had only a few fan headers on the board and no Qpost LCD.... total waste for me in all honesty but I won't go into details as many users here use the board as it is "great". I ended up getting the Msi Meg X570 Ace, don't complain bout the price when what we pay in South Africa for it is just shy of 500 USD..... but I got it and I am happy. My board before was an Asus Crosshair VII Hero, great but I killed it twice..... no not hardware defect, me killing it.

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I dropped the Gigabyte Aurus Elite as it had only a few fan headers on the board and no Qpost LCD.... total waste for me in all honesty but I won't go into details as many users here use the board as it is "great". I ended up getting the Msi Meg X570 Ace, don't complain bout the price when what we pay in South Africa for it is just shy of 500 USD..... but I got it and I am happy. My board before was an Asus Crosshair VII Hero, great but I killed it twice..... no not hardware defect, me killing it.
I'm curious what you did to the CH7 ^^#
XOC ?


The elite was annoying, one guy had it shipped with broken flashback - had to RMA , got another board but that one was still buggy when it comes to flashback
For X570 i wouldn't aim lower then the Aorus Pro at all (VRM vise)
The X370/470 Taichi (they are the same) are soo much better in specs then the Elite for 60-80 less
X570 is hard, as a MEG comparison , i may would grab the ASRock creator (ignoring the looks but it's cheaper at least)
"Hard" in the sense that i dislike soo many boards , price vise for sure

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I'm curious what you did to the CH7 ^^#
XOC ?
90% sure yes

Back on topic, To be honest, unless you have a NEED for PCI-E 4.0 for the build you are doing and will NOT upgrade within 3 years or so, go for X470 or X370.

There really is no need to spend $ needlessly. There are several X470 boards that are spectacular, mostly currently on special, and offer way more than the equivalent X570 at the same price.

Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 $230 : https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1681314...-152-_-Product
ASUS X470 Crosshair VII Hero $240 (no wifi) ,$270 with WIFI : https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-cros...-098-_-Product
ASRock X470 Taichi $200 after rebate : https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1681315...-835-_-Product
ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate $270 : https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1681315...-835-_-Product
ASUS X370 Crosshair VI Hero $195 : https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-cros...-963-_-Product

Then a final Budget entry :
MSI GAMING B450 TOMAHAWK $115 : https://www.newegg.com/msi-arsenal-g...-189-_-Product

Have a look at those before just buying X570, as im 90% sure these will offer you more while saving you $$.

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