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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-12-2019, 11:39 PM - Thread Starter
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The right motherboard and brand help

hi all,

i have always bought asus motherboards and nothing ealse but i would like to know why people are saying the gigabytes are good. I have herd gigabyte motherboards never realy used good quality components otr has that changed this time, What about Asus ? have they went down hill or have gigabyte upped there game ? its just i remember years ago people who bought gigabyte where the cheaper not as good brand.

I have not built a pc in 10 years as i am looking to upgrade so just needed some advice on this as to be honest never bought AMD to as i am looking to change


thanks for any advice on what board to go for as i am looking for a real solid board but not the silly priced versions.

thanks
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Gigabyte makes some really good motherboards. From my experience working in hardware retail. they have a better reliability as well. Asus generally has better warranty service in case something goes wrong. You'll have to decide if that's worth the slight premium

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Quote: Originally Posted by meridius View Post
hi all,

i have always bought asus motherboards and nothing ealse but i would like to know why people are saying the gigabytes are good. I have herd gigabyte motherboards never realy used good quality components otr has that changed this time, What about Asus ? have they went down hill or have gigabyte upped there game ? its just i remember years ago people who bought gigabyte where the cheaper not as good brand.

I have not built a pc in 10 years as i am looking to upgrade so just needed some advice on this as to be honest never bought AMD to as i am looking to change


thanks for any advice on what board to go for as i am looking for a real solid board but not the silly priced versions.

thanks
What are we talking About?
AM4-Plattform? Boards for Ryzen?
TRX40 for Threadripper?

What is your Budget?
What are the Features you need/want?

Gigabyte make good boards - BIOS is a little shaky at times - but depends - for AM4/x570 - the Aorus Master is a great board especially if you want OC capabilities - the Xtreme has the best VRM but a hefty premium...

MSI make also some very good boards for x570 and is praised for their easy to use BIOS.
ASrock has some with TB3 (namely the ASRock Creator x570 and the most expensive board for x570 the Asrock aqua) if you need that.
Asus is good on with the cheapest x570 board that isn't crap - Asus Tuf gaming x570 - but AFAIR none of their boards in the upper end for AM4 are particular good compared to the others.

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HI all thanks for the help, sorry i thought i said this is for a 3900x Chip, I never bought anything but Asus but herd they are not as good now and are very expensive for what they are now.

I have not had any problems with asus but my last board was 6 years ago i think and on a intel system as i have neve rowned or built a AMD system so i thought i would ask.

I was looking at the gigabyte master but have herd they have had alot of problems with there bios but i am not to sure if thats the norm these days even on intel ? as todays motherboards seem to be doing alot more than they used to be in with onbaord hardware. I know the master has had some time fixing alot of stuff bt just wanted to ask what people thought.
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Quote: Originally Posted by meridius View Post
HI all thanks for the help, sorry i thought i said this is for a 3900x Chip, I never bought anything but Asus but herd they are not as good now and are very expensive for what they are now.

I have not had any problems with asus but my last board was 6 years ago i think and on a intel system as i have neve rowned or built a AMD system so i thought i would ask.

I was looking at the gigabyte master but have herd they have had alot of problems with there bios but i am not to sure if thats the norm these days even on intel ? as todays motherboards seem to be doing alot more than they used to be in with onbaord hardware. I know the master has had some time fixing alot of stuff bt just wanted to ask what people thought.
To be honest take your pick of the higher tier boards from any of the top brands(Asus,ASRock,Biostar,Gigabyte,MSi,etc.)
The cheap ones get spotty updates and cheaper components.
Don't go with a just-released board if you don't want the hassles of working out the bugs.

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I never bought anything but Asus but herd they are not as good now and are very expensive for what they are now.

I'm a long time Asus customer and not just their MBs. That being said, over the last couple of years their quality has slacked off some. Don't get me wrong, they still make good quality boards, and in my opinion they still make the best MBs on the market, but their quality isn't at the level it was even 2 years ago.


Quote: Originally Posted by meridius View Post
I have not had any problems with asus but my last board was 6 years ago i think and on a intel system as i have neve rowned or built a AMD system so i thought i would ask.

All I build is Intel, so know nothing about AMD boards, use to be AMD chips were fickle when it came to RAM but from what I'm seeing they may have worked that out.


Quote: Originally Posted by meridius View Post
I was looking at the gigabyte master but have herd they have had alot of problems with there bios but i am not to sure if thats the norm these days even on intel ? as todays motherboards seem to be doing alot more than they used to be in with onbaord hardware. I know the master has had some time fixing alot of stuff bt just wanted to ask what people thought.

Asus has the best BIOS in the industry. I've built computers for several customers over the last few months with boards from MSI, ASRock, Gigabyte, and ASUS. I prefer ASUSs BIOS first, next best BIOS setup is ASRock IMHO.



I go on NewEgg a lot just looking at parts I see a lot of MSI and Gigabyte refurbished boards listed all the time. Referbs are boards that were sold new, had problems and are suppose to be "fixed". I don't trust referb components, if a manufactures QC process missed what ever the problem was then what else did they miss? Why do they have so many referbs on the market? Plus with so many referbs on the market places, makes me wonder about their quality all around.

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Hi,
Not sure about the amd side of the pond but intel I've had pretty good luck with tuf series boards
x99 sabertooth still in commission and tuf mark 2 on x299 does better than an apex.

There is a ocn amd mother board thread on the tuf series and says it's pretty good.

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I have bad luck with asus. All the stuff I bought stopped working shortly after the warranty was over. The latest being an asus monitor mg279q which has 2 vertical lines(for now, it used to be one) on it.
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I have bad luck with asus. All the stuff I bought stopped working shortly after the warranty was over. The latest being an asus monitor mg279q which has 2 vertical lines(for now, it used to be one) on it.
Hi,
Kind of the good thing about tuf series 5 year warranty.

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Word I've seen over the past few years tells me Asus has taken a tumble in quality, esp with things BIOS related.
The components used to make them are still good to top quality, the noted issue(s) are it's almost like they forgot how to write a good, bug-free BIOS file - Similar thing Gigabyte has going on in the days of AM3/AM3+ with their BIOS woes.

ASRock has come up in quality and performance, no question of it and even MSI has made strides in the right direction it seems, at least there haven't been any reports of rampant VRM death going around as of late (With AM4) which is a good thing. Gigabyte from what I can tell is getting better, they still have work to do but better is better at least.

The MSI MEG ACE board I have seems good and the BIOS itself (Once you figure out the nomenclature) is actually pretty good itself.

Personal result from mine: https://hwbot.org/submission/4285521_

I have seen others say the newest BIOS files killed off performance a little for the ACE as an example and will say if it's something security related or to fix functionality/support issues I'd do the BIOS update.
However as long as neither of the previous applies I'd leave it alone and enjoy the board - And that's for any board make/model.

I currently have a X470 Tachi Ultimate (Daily) and the ACE for now as my AM4 benching board.

The above is simply what I've observed from my singular viewpoint since Socket AM4 was released and a personal take on all that.
Doesn't mean it's actually "Right", just an observation here and only applies to AMD boards with Intel based boards being a different matter.

If I had to choose a board today I'd go ASRock first, MSI second, Asus and Gigabyte being a tossup for third.

If anyone else has had a different experience with theirs, speak up please and let us (And the OP) know!

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