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Good mobo for Ryzen 2700x ?

Hi folks, its been a while. Asking for some help in choosing a good motherboard for my 2700x that i recently bought, budget is $200 CAD, i'm in hamilton ontario and thats without taxes. i have not bought the ram yet but that's not an issue to buy after. I'm upgrading from i7 950, everything else on the pc is upgraded and up to date, running a 1060 evga at the moment. would love some expert advice from you guys! Thanks in advance.

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Do you have a preference on where to order it from? I'd recommend shopping around for a decent B450 with the features you want. There's no need to go x470 or x570 with that CPU unless you just really want to spend the extra money.


Edit: MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon is a pretty popular choice. It's probably the most popular B450 on the market, and is about as loaded with options as they come.

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mITX:
MSi B450i Gaming Plus AC

mATX:
MSi B450m Mortar MAX

ATX:
MSi B450 Tomahawk MAX
MSi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC

X470 and X570 aren't really worth considering unless you really need the stronger VRMs on some of the higher end X570 boards like the ASUS TUF Gaming X570 for a 3950X. PCIe 4.0 won't be particularly useful in any capacity (we've only just saturated PCIe 3.0 x8 for GPUs; PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSDs are still far too expensive for very little benefit over their PCIe 3.0 counterparts for 99.9% of people). Multi-GPU is more or less dead as well so Crossfire/SLI support on the X-series chipsets isn't very useful either.

If you can find the B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC for not much more than the Tomahawk MAX, I would get that instead if you either want Intel LAN or need WLAN and bluetooth (it comes with an Intel 9260). At least in the US, sometimes the Gaming Pro Carbon AC is only $15 more than the Tomahawk MAX. For reference, most Intel 9260 + M.2 to PCIe x1 + antenna add-in wi-fi cards are usually $35 US so it's quite a steal for only $15 more.

Edit: For RAM, I'd suggest the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000/3200 MHz as Micron Rev.E seems to put the least strain on the Ryzen memory controllers which is a bit more important on Ryzen 1000/2000 than on Ryzen 3000. Details on how the Ryzen IMCs work in my signature but tl;dr you'll want your memory clock as high as possible on Ryzen 1000/2000 to maximize the infinity fabric speed.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...s2k8g4d32aesbk
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...s2k16g4d32aesb

Just copy paste the timings from the Ryzen DRAM calculator for 3600-3800MHz into your BIOS.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-a...ram-bench.html

The other colors of the Ballistix Sport LT are the same, though the grey ones are the least expensive right now. If you wanted cheaper or don't want to tweak, you could get a kit of 3600MHz 16-19-19-39 Hynix instead:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...600c16d-16gvkc
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...600c16d-32gvkc

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo View Post
Do you have a preference on where to order it from? I'd recommend shopping around for a decent B450 with the features you want. There's no need to go x470 or x570 with that CPU unless you just really want to spend the extra money.


Edit: MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon is a pretty popular choice. It's probably the most popular B450 on the market, and is about as loaded with options as they come.
True ill look it up, yeah theres not much places to shop from in Canada other than Canada computers and new egg literly.

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Quote: Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
mITX:
MSi B450i Gaming Plus AC

mATX:
MSi B450m Tomahawk MAX

ATX:
MSi B450 Tomahawk MAX
MSi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC

X470 and X570 aren't really worth considering unless you really need the stronger VRMs on some of the higher end X570 boards like the ASUS TUF Gaming X570 for a 3950X. PCIe 4.0 won't be particularly useful in any capacity (we've only just saturated PCIe 3.0 x8 for GPUs; PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSDs are still far too expensive for very little benefit over their PCIe 3.0 counterparts for 99.9% of people). Multi-GPU is more or less dead as well so Crossfire/SLI support on the X-series chipsets isn't very useful either.

If you can find the B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC for not much more than the Tomahawk MAX, I would get that instead if you either want Intel LAN or need WLAN and bluetooth (it comes with an Intel 9260). At least in the US, sometimes the Gaming Pro Carbon AC is only $15 more than the Tomahawk MAX. For reference, most Intel 9260 + M.2 to PCIe x1 + antenna add-in wi-fi cards are usually $35 US so it's quite a steal for only $15 more.

Edit: For RAM, I'd suggest the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000/3200 MHz as Micron Rev.E seems to put the least strain on the Ryzen memory controllers which is a bit more important on Ryzen 1000/2000 than on Ryzen 3000. Details on how the Ryzen IMCs work in my signature but tl;dr you'll want your memory clock as high as possible on Ryzen 1000/2000 to maximize the infinity fabric speed.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...s2k8g4d32aesbk
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...s2k16g4d32aesb

Just copy paste the timings from the Ryzen DRAM calculator for 3600-3800MHz into your BIOS.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-a...ram-bench.html

The other colors of the Ballistix Sport LT are the same, though the grey ones are the least expensive right now. If you wanted cheaper or don't want to tweak, you could get a kit of 3600MHz 16-19-19-39 Hynix instead:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...600c16d-16gvkc
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/...600c16d-32gvkc
Awesome advice man! I will definitely be looking into what you advised, you broke down everything for me which I love!! Cheers and happy new year I'll let you know what I decide.

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Grab the MSI B450 Gaming. Slowly MSI have etched away and are now legit great motherboards. Also they really like RAM so you will have no problems there. Great OCing board alto you can't really OC Ryzen too much.

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Quote: Originally Posted by sniper_13 View Post
Awesome advice man! I will definitely be looking into what you advised, you broke down everything for me which I love!! Cheers and happy new year I'll let you know what I decide.
mb the mATX is the B450m Mortar MAX, not the Tomahawk (that's the ATX one), though I think it's not sold in North America for some reason. Unfortunately there aren't any other particularly good mATX boards. The MSi B450M Gaming Plus might be fine but it's a slightly smaller form factor than mATX that only has 2 DIMM slots (if you needed 4 for whatever reason).
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mb the mATX is the B450m Mortar MAX, not the Tomahawk (that's the ATX one), though I think it's not sold in North America for some reason. Unfortunately there aren't any other particularly good mATX boards. The MSi B450M Gaming Plus might be fine but it's a slightly smaller form factor than mATX that only has 2 DIMM slots (if you needed 4 for whatever reason).
So i'm gonna go with the B450 Tomahawk seems the price on newegg and is the only one in stock out of all the other places.

https://www.newegg.ca/msi-b450-tomah...82E16813144267

and the carbon AC is is $209 so its pretty big price difference, i looked it up at canada computers and it was for 179.99 which i was willing to dish out but its sold out even online i cant find that board anywhere else for that price.

Do you have any other recommendations for ram wise ? i heard the crucial ones u recommended have horrible latency and slow read speeds.

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