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MEMORY for ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Hi, I am wanting to know a good 3733Mhz ram for this mobo. Fast but solid as I can be safe with.
I do have a tight budget but would like an 2x8 set (16GB) for 130 USD budget.

If there is anything specific to the modules I should know please chime in with some links preferably in stock.

mobo is the ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Processor will be the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

Thanks!

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Does it have to be 3733 or are you ok with 3600 also if you could get 32gigs for the 130 budget ? And have you tested your cpu does it run 1866 stable ?

heres a nice cl15 16gig kit
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-...quicklink=true


i know these are a little high but they are 32gig
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-...quicklink=true


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Does it have to be 3733 or are you ok with 3600 also if you could get 32gigs for the 130 budget ? And have you tested your cpu does it run 1866 stable ?

heres a nice cl15 16gig kit
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-...quicklink=true


i know these are a little high but they are 32gig
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-...quicklink=true
The first one looks like Samsung B-Die and have potential for superior timings, if you don't need more than 16GB I'd say go for those.

The other kit looks like Micron or Hynix from the subtimings, they may very well reach 3733MHz but at much more laxed timings. The difference in AIDA64 cachemem should be ~60GB read / 65ns latency for the first kit and 53-54GB read / 69ns latency for the second without extreme timings. The B-Die are more forgiving and can boot with wonky timings.

edit. be prepared for D.O.C.P not working, most kits are made for Intel and it's likely you will have to set most timings by yourself to get high speeds. Look at the QVL for your motherboard if you don't like to go the extra mile and choose only memory from QVL and preferably those advertised as "AMD Ryzen Memory".

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The first one looks like Samsung B-Die and have potential for superior timings, if you don't need more than 16GB I'd say go for those.

The other kit looks like Micron or Hynix from the subtimings, they may very well reach 3733MHz but at much more laxed timings. The difference in AIDA64 cachemem should be ~60GB read / 65ns latency for the first kit and 53-54GB read / 69ns latency for the second without extreme timings. The B-Die are more forgiving and can boot with wonky timings.

edit. be prepared for D.O.C.P not working, most kits are made for Intel and it's likely you will have to set most timings by yourself to get high speeds. Look at the QVL for your motherboard if you don't like to go the extra mile and choose only memory from QVL and preferably those advertised as "AMD Ryzen Memory".
Good to know, I got some rest and can think a bit better..
How about this set G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C18D-16GTRS
This is on the Boards QVL
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Good to know, I got some rest and can think a bit better..
How about this set G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C18D-16GTRS
This is on the Boards QVL
From the timings it looks similar to the Ripjaws set linked above, probably Hynix DJR or maybe Micron E-die. It will do high frequency just fine but you are not likely to tighten up the timings by much, that is B-die territory.

Of note is Zen 2 doesn't do IF/MEMCLK over 1900MHz so DDR4000 is a bit of a overkill for a Ryzen system, as you can't run it 1:1. But if you run it at 3733-3800 it will work well, possibly you can tighten some subtimings too.

What is interesting with Zen 3 is if the I/O-die will be able to do IF up to/over 2000MHz, in that case those mem would have some future proofing. Con is, we don't know that yet.

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Quote: Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
From the timings it looks similar to the Ripjaws set linked above, probably Hynix DJR or maybe Micron E-die. It will do high frequency just fine but you are not likely to tighten up the timings by much, that is B-die territory.

Of note is Zen 2 doesn't do IF/MEMCLK over 1900MHz so DDR4000 is a bit of a overkill for a Ryzen system, as you can't run it 1:1. But if you run it at 3733-3800 it will work well, possibly you can tighten some subtimings too.

What is interesting with Zen 3 is if the I/O-die will be able to do IF up to/over 2000MHz, in that case those mem would have some future proofing. Con is, we don't know that yet.
The QVL states this Memory is Sumsungs

Thanks for the posts,
THe link I posted above didn't work out. It was in the QVL but there was a error on the suppliers page that listed it different price, so I finally pulled the trig and chose the G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4133 (PC4 33000) Intel Z270 / Z370 / X299 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-4133C19D-16GTZC

This is on the Mobo QVL and should hope it goes well when I get my zen 7 3700X.

I have build two new machine this past month for the boys, a B450 with the zen 7 3700X and another Arous Elite x570 with the zen 7 3700X and all 16gb memory.
At this point i am upgrading my FX-8370 to the new ROG Strix X570-E Gaming mobo and hop the rest works out.
I think i been bottle necking the MSI GTX -1060 gamer X 6 gb GPU, as when i OC it I loose frame rate and it seems rather a lack in performance.

Thanks for all the post and help!
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That looks like some extreme good memory, dream memory for a tweaker really, but be prepared for dialing in some manual settings it could happen.

The X570-E do have a very easy bios to work with which should help.

Some things to think about, upgrade to the latest bios and use Bios Flashback for that. Keep the USB-stick in the PC, you can use it to backup bios settings under user profiles in the bios. That is very handy when doing OC if you have to reset the bios, instead of dialing in all the settings manual you can just activate the last stable profile. Also, in case you have to reset it's smart to wire the case reset button to the clear cmos jumper so you don't have to access the motherboard for every reset.

Using the above methodology it's rather quick to test even wild settings

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yea the rog strix -e is great just make sure you update to the 2204 bios that one has gave me better memory clocks and cpu clocks.
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/


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Quote: Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
That looks like some extreme good memory, dream memory for a tweaker really, but be prepared for dialing in some manual settings it could happen.

The X570-E do have a very easy bios to work with which should help.

Some things to think about, upgrade to the latest bios and use Bios Flashback for that. Keep the USB-stick in the PC, you can use it to backup bios settings under user profiles in the bios. That is very handy when doing OC if you have to reset the bios, instead of dialing in all the settings manual you can just activate the last stable profile. Also, in case you have to reset it's smart to wire the case reset button to the clear cmos jumper so you don't have to access the motherboard for every reset.

Using the above methodology it's rather quick to test even wild settings
That is a great suggestion, This is the third pc I built in two months but the others are the boys systems. I am still learning the Ryzen world and the B450 and the x570's. I may be calling on you for some other suggestion in the future.
My mobo suppose to be here around the 11th this month. 3700X and Ram tomorrow.

I gonna look at saving each PC's bios as you suggested.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Bal3Wolf View Post
yea the rog strix -e is great just make sure you update to the 2204 bios that one has gave me better memory clocks and cpu clocks.
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/
No worries there. I have already downloaded all the files and BIOS to have on hand.

No matter the BIOS is going to be upgraded if it isn't the latest.

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