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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-31-2020, 12:37 PM
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Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus

Hi, yes my Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus virtualization machine is finished. CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X, Memory 48GB Crucial Balistix Red 3000 (2x 16 GB and 2x 8GB).
This low power configuration trashes my old Asus Crosshair VI with the Ryzen 1700X (OC to 3800 Mhz and slow memory) regarding CPU performance.
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Quote: Originally Posted by carlosdivega View Post
Hi, yes my Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus virtualization machine is finished. CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X, Memory 48GB Crucial Balistix Red 3000 (2x 16 GB and 2x 8GB).
This low power configuration trashes my old Asus Crosshair VI with the Ryzen 1700X (OC to 3800 Mhz and slow memory) regarding CPU performance.
What settings did you use to get your memory to 3800?

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Quote: Originally Posted by carlosdivega View Post
Hi, yes my Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus virtualization machine is finished. CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X, Memory 48GB Crucial Balistix Red 3000 (2x 16 GB and 2x 8GB).
This low power configuration trashes my old Asus Crosshair VI with the Ryzen 1700X (OC to 3800 Mhz and slow memory) regarding CPU performance.
Nice setup. When you say low power, are you using eco mode so you get the 95% performance for the 30% power usage or did you mean something else?
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post #14 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-03-2020, 11:22 PM
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PRIME B550M-A (wifi) owner here, but nothing but issues trying to enable DOCP. The system just hard-resets either within minutes or after hours of gaming. Difficult to say what triggers it.

Disabling DOCP and the system is stable.

Tried 3 different sets of memory (Crucial & G.Skill), 2 of them are QVL. No difference.

Tried manual setting timings & voltages using DRAM Calc. No difference.

Maybe it's a bad CPU memory controller, or maybe it's a bad board.

I do know I'm not the only one though: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/co...50ma_wifi_and/

Memory is in the right slots btw (A2 & B2)

ASUS customer support is a PITA unfortunately.
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From what I can tell B550 motherboards don't offer compelling enough reasons to upgrade. At least not until availability improves and prices start to drop. X570 boards are more plentiful and not that much higher in price but sport equal or better features to make their value proposition better. And B450 is still a viable option and especially attractive if an upgrade path to Zen 3 isn't a consideration (since we don't yet know what boards will get the beta BIOS to support Zen 3.)

I personally see very few reasons to buy a B550 right now and are mostly centered around an absolute intent on upgrading to Ryzen 4000 when it hits. So, why not wait for that to happen and we get greater clarity into just how good it is I guess. So, maybe that's why so few commenters?
Been looking trough various options.
Unless you need the added benefit of x570 functions the boards are highly likely to perform the same.
In my case I am ordering the msi b550 a-pro as it for the price just offers me the same functionality for 120 euro less vs msi x570 tomahawk.
Since amd is also on their last am4 ddr4 (likely before ddr5 next year) I find no real reason to buy x570 boards myself.

The B550 will make me game, do my stuff and function fine.
It be a great upgrade from my current 3 year old b350 board as I wait for zen 3 to be released.

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Tomahawk thiccness is 1.5mm, feels weak for 6 layers and 2oz. Anyone with Giga and Asus?
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Quote: Originally Posted by flopper View Post
Been looking trough various options.
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The B550 will make me game, do my stuff and function fine.
It be a great upgrade from my current 3 year old b350 board as I wait for zen 3 to be released.
Yeah...B550 boards are starting to come available here now so the prices are returning to sanity by not going above list at least. They should make a nice upgrade from a B350, it's mainly upgrading from a decent B450 board where I think the value is questionable. I'd have to be looking for something they uniquely offer to make it compelling enough: like 'cool running' VRM support for a 3900/3950 processor or an assured path to a Zen 3 processor. I'm not yet sold on PCIe gen 4, maybe that will change though.

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I got a MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi and I am pretty help about it. What made me upset was that 20 days after I bought the Carbon dropped the price to only 4 EURO more than the price I paid, but I am still happy

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Went with the Gigabyte B550M Auros Pro. Pretty satisfied so far. Cost 110$ after a CPU bundle from Micro Center. Plugged in an OS drive from the R5 1600 system and it booted just fine.

This is my first AM4 motherboard from Giga. I have two from Asus and one from MSI.
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Quote: Originally Posted by buddywh View Post
From what I can tell B550 motherboards don't offer compelling enough reasons to upgrade. At least not until availability improves and prices start to drop. X570 boards are more plentiful and not that much higher in price but sport equal or better features to make their value proposition better. And B450 is still a viable option and especially attractive if an upgrade path to Zen 3 isn't a consideration (since we don't yet know what boards will get the beta BIOS to support Zen 3.)

I personally see very few reasons to buy a B550 right now and are mostly centered around an absolute intent on upgrading to Ryzen 4000 when it hits. So, why not wait for that to happen and we get greater clarity into just how good it is I guess. So, maybe that's why so few commenters?
While you're right, it depends.

I got myself a B550 Aorus Pro for upcoming ZEN3. At the moment I own a 2700X on a 1st gen Crosshair VI, which I will sell. With Gigabytes promotion (20€ Steam coupon) I got it for 150€ which is not bad. Reason why B550 is simple: I want at minimum 10 USB-A ports on my rear I/O (Since my Oculus Rift alone uses 4) and when I filter for that, there is almost no option. Gigabytes B550 line-up seems to be the only boards that actually make use of their I/O apart from super expensive high-end boards, so it was a no brainer really. And it looks like a super solid board too.

Next Boards that fullfill my criteria would me X570 Aorus Elite for around 200€ or X570 Aorus Pro for around 250€, but I don't think X570 has that much more to offer over B550. B450/X470 seem to lack I/O on almost every board.

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