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post #31 of 38 (permalink) Old 05-18-2004, 09:19 PM
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Not is the best to overclock!But have all necessary to run stable any athlon xp with all necesary to normal user!!
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Hello,

Recently I asked to Asrock about following email questions.
They answered too short to figure out if it really support more than 1 DDR400 ram. Disappointed and do not want their answer anymore.

Anyone know K7S8XE / K7S8XE+ mobo really support 2 DDR400 at the speed?
I mean, "1 DDR400 1GB ram" and "2 DDR400 512MB" have the same speed with Barton 2500+ @3200+ 200x11.

Here's my email messages with Asrock tech support;
(Why they use BR as Best regards...)
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Dear Sir,

If you user 2 DDR400 rams on K7S8XE+, the default setting will run at DDR333.
What we guaranty is to run one DD400 or 2 DDR 333.

BR,( Best Regards),




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-----Original Message-----
From: xxx

Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Asrock TSD
Subject: Re: Question aboutK7S8XE+ Memory restriction?




Dear BR,

- Does your K7S8XE+ mother board support 2 DDR400 rams in 2 slots???
The question means;
Can I use TWO 512MB DDR400 memories AT THE 400Mhz SPEED?

Would you answer only "YES" or "NO" on this question?

---- Original Message -----



From: [email protected]
To: xxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: Question aboutK7S8XE+ Memory restriction?


Dear Sir,

If you use DDR400 memory, K7S8XE+ supprots to 1GB.

BR,





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-----Original Message-----

From: xxx
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:14 PM
To: Asrock TSD
Subject: Question aboutK7S8XE+ Memory restriction?
Importance: High


Dear AsRock technical support,

I'm going to use your boards
- K7S8XE+
- Barton Athlon XP 2500+ ==> will be overclocking to 3200+
- PC3200 (DDR400) 512MB Ram
- Windows 98SE OS

Your board priced good. and shows good performance and many i/o ports as well.
However, I'd like to add more DDR400 512MB rams later.

I've seen your manual and other forums, they says,
For DDR400, 1GB max. only 1 memory slot.
Then, which means I can not use 2 DDR400 rams for DDR400 speed.

However, someone actually have installed 2 DDR400 rams (512MB x 2) into 2 slots at FSB 400.
"When I installed 2 rams, BIOS automatically set DDR from 400 to 333.
After I changed 333 to 400 back, and it did work fine.", he said on a web forum.

So, I searched SiS software web site, www.sis.com, to find the document of SiS748 chipset.
the document says Sis748 support maximum 3GB of memory.
I could not find one describing "only 1GB and 1 slot for DDR400 memory".

My questions are;
- Does your K7S8XE+ mother board support 2 DDR400 rams in 2 slots???
- If not, what is the restriction point? SiS chipset, BIOS design or what???
- If we change BIOS setting from 333 to 400, then 2 DDR400 512MB memories are working for 400MHz actually???

I'm looking forward to your answers.
Thanks!.

P.S. For your marketing purpose, I would say your company should improve these things;
- Product package - Logo, font
- Documentation - Manual, web sites
- BIOS change to Pheonix, or Award. Not AMI.
Then your company will Rock!



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I dunno why you would want to get the board. There are much better boards out there. It's cheap and has SATA, yes, but the SiS cheapset isn't very good and I don't think the board will be very good either.

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I dunno why you would want to get the board. There are much better boards out there. It's cheap and has SATA, yes, but the SiS cheapset isn't very good and I don't think the board will be very good either.
The reasons are
- So far I could not find seller of Shuttle AN35N-Ultra in Toronto area. I know I can order from States, but It's hard to get RMA, shipping, return to US from here.
- I will make over 15 sets of mobo, so the cost per a mobo will be 15 times, difference Abit NF7-S and Asrock K7S8XE+ is approxy $45 US in Toronto. 45 x 15 = $675. Maybe I can put the each money, $45, to better Video card.

These make sense to me, don't you.
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It's great to save money, but bottom-line is the mobo is the heart of the system. If you buy a crappy one things go wrong much more easily and often. Now I don't have any experience w/ the mobo, so it might be ok.

What are you building the systems for? Customers? Business? Personal use? It looks like you're planning on OCing them so I'm wondering what they're for. You really would hate to build 15 of these and have monthly problems w/ 5 of 'em.

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It's great to save money, but bottom-line is the mobo is the heart of the system. If you buy a crappy one things go wrong much more easily and often. Now I don't have any experience w/ the mobo, so it might be ok.

What are you building the systems for? Customers? Business? Personal use? It looks like you're planning on OCing them so I'm wondering what they're for. You really would hate to build 15 of these and have monthly problems w/ 5 of 'em.
It's for a business, for computer games. I don't think Asrock will make monthly 5 problems out of 15 since I saw reviews.
Anyway this is my plan.

Running 16 hours a day.
OS - Windows 98se (until XP viruses become calm down)
CPU - Barton XP 2500+ RetailBox $112 @3200+ 2.2G
or Mobile XP 2400+ OEM $102 + cheap cooler $10?
Memory - DDR400 512MB x 1 (will add 512MB later, total 1G)
Video - FX5600XT, FX5700 or Radeon 9800 pro 128...
HDD - 80G IDE 133
Mobo - so far I found these prices. All in Canadian dollars.

ASROCK K7S8XE SIS748 $62.99
ASROCK K7S8XE+ SIS748, SATA,RAID $71.99
Shuttle AN35N-Ultra nForce2, Dual DDR $97.99
ABIT NF7 V2 nForce2, Dual DDR $96.00
ABIT NF7-S V2 nForce2, Dual DDR, SATA $134.00
Biostar - M7NCD - nForce2 400 $74.99
ASUS A7N8X-X $94.00
ASUS A7N8X, Dual DDR, SATA $115.00


I do not need SATA for now. Need stability and performance for 3D game.
Want 2500+ @2.2G 3200+. More than 2.2G WITH stability is of course better. Don't want to buy special CPU cooler.
Want to save some $ on mobo so that I can add them on a better video card or bigger memory.

If you were me, which mobo and CPU would you choose?
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mobile 2500 and abit nf7s, will get you 2400-2700

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