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post #3081 of 3268 (permalink) Old 05-16-2018, 06:23 AM
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Here are Cinebench 15 results on the MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC at 4.25 GHZ with its "crippled" vrms. Not much difference compared to any other top board at that speed unless somebody has pictures to show differently. The 4.225 GHZ speed is the wsweetspot for Cinebench 15 on this board. I have fully stability tested at this speed and at 4.25 GHZ and passed. I will not do so higher than that 4.25 GHZ as performance degradation certainly occurrs at 4.275 and 4.3 GHZ. I do not believe it will be significantly different on other boards at 4.3 GHZ as well. That is pushing the thernal limits of the 2700X up at that range and even if stable the results would be less than desirable.
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I have the wifi version of this board. Is the VRM any good?
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I have the wifi version of this board. Is the VRM any good?
It's not great but the board is cheap , just like if you were to buy a board from Gigabyte/MSI at that price point which also are using similar setups. Basically what has ended up happening due to AMD's aggressive power constraints with R7 2700X (i.e. ~ 140W out of the box) is that the most garbage VRM on X470 needs to be at least 10% better than a B350/midrange X370 which are specced up to 128.8W (source:
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The Master SLI is akin to the older Fatal1ty X370 Gaming X , a midrange board.

It's not until you hit ~$180-200 that you get a IR Digital PWM although in Europe I think the Asus Prime x470 Pro is around 160 Euros.

edit: seems HKEpc did an overview of the Master SLI today but theirs seems to use NIKOS instead of the often common Sinopower http://www.hkepc.com/16706/%E6%8A%B5...A9%9F%E6%9D%BF

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Changes/Modifications on the Biostar X470GT8 vs X370GT7

Added clock generator
Added clear cmos button
CPU socket changed from Lotes to Foxconn.
Memory/CPU traces altered
PCB layer increased from 4 to 6.
AM3 mounting bracket support
Different (upgraded?) CPU VRM chokes
Relocated debug LED
LAN changed from Realtek to Intel
Improved fan control in bios
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Quote: Originally Posted by josephimports View Post
Changes/Modifications on the Biostar X470GT8 vs X370GT7

Added clock generator
Added clear cmos button
CPU socket changed from Lotes to Foxconn.
Memory/CPU traces altered
PCB layer increased from 4 to 6.
AM3 mounting bracket support
Different (upgraded?) CPU VRM chokes
Relocated debug LED
I'm glad to see Biostar building on the GT7 as I thought it was a very good board at the price for which it was usually on offer. I was waiting around with my backup Taichi to see if the GT8 would be a good fit and it looks like it'll suit me just fine.

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Now if someone (I don't care who) would just produce a mini itx x470 board with more than 4 sata ports.

AM4 is screaming for a mini itx board that meets those requirements for a small NAS build. Intel has killed ECC support for so long that the only alternatives are xeons or atom chips.

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Guys, i can't decide between x470 Taichi and Asus Gaming F with regards to Zen 2.

I'm planing on running a 2600 and switch it to a 8 core processor when Zen 2 releases.

Basically I'm thinking about getting the Gaming F, because I like the Bios and the RAM oc more.

On the other side, Zen 2 could possibly run like 4.6 to 4.8 Ghz. Not sure if the Strix F can handle this...

So would it be better to go on the safe side and just get the Taichi?

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X470-F STRIX performance with R7 2700X manually overclocked to 4.2GHz
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