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post #3991 of 4167 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 03:33 PM
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@1usmus and others interested. I just learned a few minutes ago of this. And then I found an additional hidden menu in the memory benchmark in AIDA. I will let y'all figure out what these different tests really mean and do. I have a new rescue dog that is pretty much taking up all my times these days so not much time left to devote to overclocking for the last two months.

TIL and thought I would share here and in the memory thread. AIDA should somehow make this bit more know somehow. But if you right click the start benchmark a hidden menu pops up. Credit to https://www.reddit.com/r/overclockin..._bench_button/

However I then tried right clicking in the results area and got an additional menu that allows you to change the bench mark order and weather it displays in MB/s or GB/s and there are 3 additional tests. I am not sure what all this really means for testing just yet...but there are changes from one test to another especially in latency.

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I am finally getting somewhere. Had to deviate a bit from the guideline but I am working on stability as I go. tRC and tRFC are still not happy to go lower. Ram voltage was 1.35.
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I am finally getting somewhere. Had to deviate a bit from the guideline but I am working on stability as I go. tRC and tRFC are still not happy to go lower. Ram voltage was 1.35.
Can try lowering some of the sub timings with a slight voltage increase, mines at 1.37v
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I am finally getting somewhere. Had to deviate a bit from the guideline but I am working on stability as I go. tRC and tRFC are still not happy to go lower. Ram voltage was 1.35.
Why not try and see what 1.4V or 1.45V will get you?

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tWR difference?

p.s. If I update the profile, then most likely, the voltage for RAM will also change
I tried 24 for tWR and 480 tRFC but still got errors. Maybe up the tRRDS and tRRDL by one, as in 1.4.0?

I will be getting a 3600 CJR kit next week so we'll see how far I can get on a B350 and R5 1600.

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Can try lowering some of the sub timings with a slight voltage increase, mines at 1.37v
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Why not try and see what 1.4V or 1.45V will get you?
Yeah I am going to mess with it more tonight.

It is nice having a good and stable setup though after all that messing around.

My memory controller doesn't like anything higher than 2933 though. I am stable now at 14-15-14-15-30, going to 14-14-14-14-30 results in BSOD even after taking ram to 1.4v though, and I cannot set tCL to 13, I'll set it and get into windows and the timing checker, hwinfo, and cpuz all say tCL is 14.

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Yeah I am going to mess with it more tonight.

It is nice having a good and stable setup though after all that messing around.

My memory controller doesn't like anything higher than 2933 though. I am stable now at 14-15-14-15-30, going to 14-14-14-14-30 results in BSOD even after taking ram to 1.4v though, and I cannot set tCL to 13, I'll set it and get into windows and the timing checker, hwinfo, and cpuz all say tCL is 14.
GDM will always round up tCL to an even number
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It is nice having a good and stable setup though after all that messing around.
+1. I have been at this for nearly two months now on and off. I have learned a lot! So I am grateful in that regard. However, I have also learned a lot of grief. It is worth it, however, I believe for the next machine I purchase in 3-5 years. Hopefully, this pain and knowledge can carry over and the next experience won't be so challenging.

@1usmus , please consider going forward more attention to 4-stick configurations, as this appears to be the source of all my issues:

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/ryzen_7/2700x

4 of 4 double ranks for Ryzen 2700x appear to be very limited by top speed. I ended up using 3000mhz for my 3333mhz set using your Fast settings (14-16-14-17-28). Forgoing PBO for a manual @ 4.25. Scoring 1935-1940 in Cinebench @ 1.375 vCore / 1.05 vSoC / 1.36 vDRAM.

250% pass on MemTest Deluxe (only $14 and very worth it IMO).

FWIW, "Extreme" doesn't work, but would be interested in using it at some point. But for now I finally have a super fast machine that I can use, and am someone familiar (comfortable, even?) with how its internals work.

Finally, @1usmus , please consider setting up a BTC/ETH address so those of us who want to show some appreciation can throw some your way from afar. Thanks again (and again!) for all your efforts and knowledge!

EDIT: CPU is 4.25 not 4.5, doh. Also, I did use .9 SoC but ended up with 1.05 SoC as this seems to handle the heat better.
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First of all I would like to apologize for the bad use of the English language.
I m facing a problem with my ram kit and I would like to share it .
After a period of total stability at 3666c14, and 3600c14 (with tighter timings), I made the mistake and tried for 3733c14. Dram/Soc voltage was within the allowed limits, up to 1.47 for Ram and up to 1,125 for the soc. .. mostly, I tried changes that had to do with termination block and cad bus block. of course I failed to maintain stability through this settings and I remember my pc getting restarted a lot of times in order to ''accept'' the new settings.. My problem is from that time, I can't I find stability neither at 3533 or at xmp settings not even after increasing voltages(tm5,hci) , I reflashed the bios,i did clear cmos, I pulled out the sticks but nothing happened.. only 2133 stable till now.
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First of all I would like to apologize for the bad use of the English language.
I m facing a problem with my ram kit and I would like to share it .
After a period of total stability at 3666c14, and 3600c14 (with tighter timings), I made the mistake and tried for 3733c14. Dram/Soc voltage was within the allowed limits, up to 1.47 for Ram and up to 1,125 for the soc. .. mostly, I tried changes that had to do with termination block and cad bus block. of course I failed to maintain stability through this settings and I remember my pc getting restarted a lot of times in order to ''accept'' the new settings.. My problem is from that time, I can't I find stability neither at 3533 or at xmp settings not even after increasing voltages(tm5,hci) , I reflashed the bios,i did clear cmos, I pulled out the sticks but nothing happened.. only 2133 stable till now.
anyone facing the same problem with me?
Did you check to see if maybe you corrupted your operating system and either repair or reinstall? May be off base but that's the only thing I see you haven't done.

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