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post #4571 of 5366 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 10:01 AM
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user chooses these modes himself, you can even take 4000 by stormon a 1:1 mode
Good to know. Now the waiting for TR gen 3!
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So there will be some 3000 CPUs that can run 4000MHz RAM at 1:1?
Should be able to. The IMC isn't the limiting factor. But I do wonder if there is a way to bin for IF control. But, since we've already seen some, like speed.fastest (I believe that is his hwbot handle) achieve over 4000 on ram for benching, I don't see went not unless doubling the pipe had unforseen effects on Max speed...

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Good to know. Now the waiting for TR gen 3!Should be able to. The IMC isn't the limiting factor. But I do wonder if there is a way to bin for IF control. But, since we've already seen some, like speed.fastest (I believe that is his hwbot handle) achieve over 4000 on ram for benching, I don't see went not unless doubling the pipe had unforseen effects on Max speed...
limit for the memory controller remains the same as the previous generation, 2000–2066 MHz

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Good to know. Now the waiting for TR gen 3!Should be able to. The IMC isn't the limiting factor. But I do wonder if there is a way to bin for IF control. But, since we've already seen some, like speed.fastest (I believe that is his hwbot handle) achieve over 4000 on ram for benching, I don't see went not unless doubling the pipe had unforseen effects on Max speed...
I've heard that Ryzen CPUs that OC at higher speeds have a weaker IMC. I never knew if that was true or not. Was that ever proven or disproven?

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Hello everybody.

I've been thinking about getting a 12c or 16c Ryzen 9 when they come out. I have a Crosshair VI Hero board and 2700x, and it currently runs my 2x8 sticks of Team Dark Pro C14 b-die at 3200MT with safe timings. I can run the CPU at -0.125V offset with PE2.

I have been wondering - would I get better clock rates on my RAM with 4 sticks than 2 because of the CHVI's topology? The board effectively has stubs on the DRAM traces right now, so having another set of ram populated would at the very least allow for those stubs to be terminated!

I can boot up to 3600MT but I can't seem to get them stable at those speeds. I haven't spent a full day tweaking subtimings to improve things since I knew I wanted to get a ryzen 3000 series cpu when they release.

Team Dark Pro ram seems to be EOL with Samsung's recent announcement that they're cancelling their production of B-Dies. I was thinking that it's now or never to pick up 2 more matching sticks, so I wanted to know if it would help my ram speeds, or do nothing, or worsen them?

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Hi and many thanks to 1usmus for this great software!

I was able to achieve a decent and superstable overclock with my kinda cheapish rig and i want to share it here. It wasn't easy task and took me many hours of tweaking so i hope it will be useful for other people too

System specs (stock): (was purchased on October 2018)

MSI B450M PRO-M2 with latest bios v2.86
Ryzen 5 1600x 3.6 Ghz
Gigabyte GTX 1060 WINDFORCE OC 3GB
DeepCool Gammax 200T 120mm CPU Fan
Corsair VS550 (HEC) 80 PLUS (white) PSU
Thermaltake Versa H15
AOC G2460VQ6 24" FHD 75 hz


The DDR4 modules are:

2x 8GB HyperX Predator 3000 H5AN8G8NCJR-UHC ( KHX3000C15D4/8GX ) so they are made by Kingston and have Hynix CJR memory.


Overclock results:

1) The first step was the CPU oc with the Ryzen pushed to 3.9 Ghz and 1.32v. Probably i could get more from it, but since im on air cooling and summers can be blazing hot here i will not go any further with it.

2) Then i pushed "a little" the 1060 with a 120 and 520 Mhz oc to Core and Memory respectively with MSI Afterburner.

3) After this i decided to venture on ddr4 overclock. This step was kinda frustrating, fun and tricky at the same time

The dimms are rated for this XMP certified profile (from Thaiphoon Burner):

1502 Mhz 15-17-17-36 @1.35v

I tried to use xmp button at first from dram calculator to get latencies but they are different from the taiphoon ones, so i decided to go straight up with debug mode and get XMP latencies from there.

After a LOT of BSODs and failed posts i finally got a stable @3466 Mhz 16-19-19-38

Key timings and values for this result were:

DRAM set to 1.43v
tRFC 523 (454 didnt work so used alt)
SOC set to 1.1
CLDO_VDDP 0.820 (apparently the "magic" 0.866 didnt work here)
tFAW set to 23 (from 32 suggested by calculator)
ProcODT 53.3, RttNOM 34, RttWr Dynamic ODT off, RttPark 48 ohms
CAD_BUS values -> all 20 ohms



I Got 400% error free results with Memtest HCI and several good runs with RealBench and AIDA64 stress tests. I got a random BSOD with RealBench once though and probably i will need to investigate FAN speed curves of CPU and case (CPU diode reached 80C° with RealBench and AIDA, guess im gonna remove OC settings on hottest days of this summer...).

Will update soon with some screenshots of bios and dram calculator. Can anyone explain me where are the VTT DDR settings on my motherboard? Also couldnt find VDDP, VPP and PLL ones
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I know my tRAS are different (28 vs 30), Since the new BIOS update I can achieve finally 3333 Mhz. I remember at launch It was a struggle to get 2933. Had 3200 for the past year and gave 1.0.0.1 a swing.
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I know my tRAS are different (28 vs 30), Since the new BIOS update I can achieve finally 3333 Mhz. I remember at launch It was a struggle to get 2933. Had 3200 for the past year and gave 1.0.0.1 a swing.
Nice timings. Since you can now reach that, have you tried 3466 or 3600? Either way, happy for your improvement there!

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Nice timings. Since you can now reach that, have you tried 3466 or 3600? Either way, happy for your improvement there!
Nope, haven't tried it yet. Comfortable at 3333 right now. 3400/3466 is my next goal if I feel like attempting it before getting a 3900x

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Nope, haven't tried it yet. Comfortable at 3333 right now. 3400/3466 is my next goal if I feel like attempting it before getting a 3900x
Fair enough. I have much longer to wait to upgrade my CPU than you do (1950X; jealous I don't get to play with zen 2 sooner).

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Asmedia, extra pci, extra sata , extra usb , extra VRM

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