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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 03:42 AM
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No overclocking. 1920x1080. High to medium graphics.
No overclocking - that's what I thought, and so I say again, your choice of PSU is just fine. It's quite a solid choice for $32 after a mail-in rebate. The next PSU on the PCPartPicker list I'd recommend costs $60 after a $20 mail-in rebate, and the build is already $728.18. With a cost goal of around $700, I see no good reason to replace the 650W S12II with a more expensive model.

The reason I asked about the performance goal is to see whether this system can handle it, and yeah, I think it'll be fine.


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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 03:45 AM
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No overclocking. 1920x1080. High to medium graphics.

Upgrading possibly the CPU/GPU/RAM.
Ah ha, to the new Ryzen 3's coming out this summer?


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I know you said it's crap. I'm questioning that very severely.
I was responding to Shilka.


I actually didn't see the other I, I thought it was the same group regulated PSU from 8 years ago that was on sale for $30 again.


No idea what the new one is made of and can't find anything about it really.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
No overclocking - that's what I thought, and so I say again, your choice of PSU is just fine. It's quite a solid choice for $32 after a mail-in rebate. The next PSU on the PCPartPicker list I'd recommend costs $60 after a $20 mail-in rebate, and the build is already $728.18. With a cost goal of around $700, I see no good reason to replace the 650W S12II with a more expensive model.

The reason I asked about the performance goal is to see whether this system can handle it, and yeah, I think it'll be fine.
That's really great to hear. Also thank you to the rest of you for chipping in. I really appreciate it and so will she. Any further suggestions or questions?
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Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
I was responding to Shilka.


I actually didn't see the other I, I thought it was the same group regulated PSU from 8 years ago that was on sale for $30 again.


No idea what the new one is made of and can't find anything about it really.
Oh, I apologize - I definitely missed that.

Even the original 520W and 620W S12II PSUs would be fine for this, even though they have a higher price right now. It's not like this rig is going to need a stellar PSU. She won't be overclocking. She just wants a good computer.

Sure, for about $30 she could have a PSU that would make most of us overclockers happy, but I see no reason to increase the cost of the build even further above the $700 cost goal just for a PSU we all know is better but would (or should) make no difference to her, even after several years.


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Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
Kinda depends on what the standards are for those things. Almost any machine will do all those things.
The GPU will do ok at 1440p but there are a lot of games that could tank it down under 60fps.
Like I said, it really depends on what you're expecting it to do.
If your goals are 1080p/60+ yeah that's great, 1440p/60 would be pretty good in most games but I'm not really sure what sort of max framerate to expect out of the CPU. Streaming would be do-able but I'd want more cores if that's a priority.
VR...what exactly are we trying to run and how well?
The PSU is crap though.
The ram should be fine but I'd check the QVL, the 1000 series was pretty particular about ram speed.

It's cheap?
Which RAM do you suggest?
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That's really great to hear. Also thank you to the rest of you for chipping in. I really appreciate it and so will she. Any further suggestions or questions?
Yeah, I should've asked before: what are the chances she will actually use those mail-in rebates?


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Oh, I apologize - I definitely missed that.

Even the original 520W and 620W S12II PSUs would be fine for this, even though they have a higher price right now. It's not like this rig is going to need a stellar PSU. She won't be overclocking. She just wants a good computer.

Sure, for about $30 she could have a PSU that would make most of us overclockers happy, but I see no reason to increase the cost of the build even further above the $700 cost goal just for a PSU we all know is better but would (or should) make no difference to her, even after several years.
This is exactly what she wants for the time being. Something that works and is cappable.
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Yeah, I should've asked before: what are the chances she will actually use those mail-in rebates?
I'll need to ask her about that tomorrow.
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I'll need to ask her about that tomorrow.
Ok, thank you.

If she says she won't use them, then that will increase the cost of this build by around $35 (according to what PCPartPicker is showing me). I realize that a cost goal of $700 and an actual cost of $766 is not a HUGE difference, but still.


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i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage)
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Thermaltake Frio
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