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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-23-2019, 07:43 PM - Thread Starter
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Early Christmas.. saving up for Zen 2!

So I have started counting my pennies so I can have enough to build a new system with the launch of Zen 2. My goal is R5 3600x, Gigabyte X570 board, 32gb DDR4-3400mhz RAM, RTX 2070.


I will also be taking this time to get new M.2's (1 for main apps, 1 for boot). I had considered waiting for Navi, because I want to support AMD in all of their projects, but the prospect of having to wait until next year for "just above" mid-grade answer is just too long. It took a month of debating with my significant other to get this set up.


My question to you guys is: Are you planning on getting the CPU/MoBo combo? Staying with same MoBo? Not upgrading to Zen2? Reasoning for your decision? And if you ARE upgrading, will you be using this as a chance to do an entire new build?
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I want a 16 core Zen 2 and an AMD 16GB gaming video card that beats the Radeon VII and then we'll be in business. My wife said she'll have $4500 saved up by Christmas and I told her that I may not need the money since I did not think AMD would get there this year or even next year. Intel and Nvidia are on the naughty list. Oh, all that and no gauging either from AMD. If I spy any shenanigans or feel like I'm being ripped-off, they can forget it. I'll keep playing on my 4 core CPU and 4GB video cards till I'm done the last game in my library. They say patience is a virtue.

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Probably a b450 or b550 with 3600. I don't expect zen 2 to have better or equal performance with 5ghz Intel (without RAM help). By the way, I'm talking about gaming. We will still need to fix bad latencies with b-die RAM, which means 2x8 b-die RAM, which means, CPU frecuency won't matter even close as much as tight timings with decent OC on RAM.

Nvme it's pointless, unless you need it for specific tasks or programs.

Lately MSI b450 boards have really decent power delivery, so it's pretty much pointless to spend 50-100 bucks on a good x570.

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I'm planning on getting a Zen2 octacore and x570 board next fall and dropping them into this current rig. No good info is out yet on motherboard specs. I learned the hard way to never go cheap.

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If the PC is pure gaming rig dont bother with an NVME drive its not faster or better for gaming

As for upgrades i have been thinking about building a Zen 2 system but i dont need any more CPU power the only thing i need is more storage and maybe a new GPU
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I'm planning on getting a Zen2 octacore and x570 board next fall and dropping them into this current rig. No good info is out yet on motherboard specs. I learned the hard way to never go cheap.
Cheap doesn't mean bad or trash, it means you have more probability you'll get bad or trash.
You didn't learned anything. Do your research before you buy hardware. You're not buying potatoes. Otherwise you might learn now, that going expensive can bring bad results aswell, and doesn't ensure of anything.

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Cheap motherboards are cheap for a reason. They have cheap components in them and/or are poorly designed. It can range from bad VRMs to bad heat sinks to bad bios to in past MSI boards bad thermal pads. The motherboard manufacturers can not be trusted to produce good inexpensive boards.

They know we know this so charge a premium price for slightly better boards.

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Cheap motherboards are cheap for a reason. They have cheap components in them and/or are poorly designed. It can range from bad VRMs to bad heat sinks to bad bios to in past MSI boards bad thermal pads. The motherboard manufacturers can not be trusted to produce good inexpensive boards.

They know we know this so charge a premium price for slightly better boards.
Ye that's sounds about right.


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It'll be interesting to see if we get a 16 core/ 32 thread chip on a mainstream board. That would make me upgrade. Also, hoping to see top end mid range card. Like successor to rx 580 or even a tease for Vega successor. We're about 1 month away!

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