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how is buying a new air cooler cheaper than using an AIO he already has?

OP, look at the manufacturer's page for your mobo. there will be a QVL with what RAM is tested to run on your board.
yeah i tried looking on there and it seems as though the 8GB i have is kinda the "best" i can do, i could go up to 12GB IF i could manage to find them anywhere, they are like $300 which seems a little much for for 16GB lol
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yeah i tried looking on there and it seems as though the 8GB i have is kinda the "best" i can do, i could go up to 12GB IF i could manage to find them anywhere, they are like $300 which seems a little much for for 16GB lol

Buy used, nothing that old is worth buying new. Same reason a new 7700K is more expensive than a new 8700K.

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Buy used, nothing that old is worth buying new. Same reason a new 7700K is more expensive than a new 8700K.
I think a full upgrade will be needed, hopefully being able to keep my graphics card. I wouldnt buy anything like this second hand.
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I think a full upgrade will be needed, hopefully being able to keep my graphics card. I wouldnt buy anything like this second hand.

If you can afford a total system upgrade it'd probably be your best bet. The 1090T is already getting to the point where it can't run certain games because it lacks the SSE4 instruction set.

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If you can afford a total system upgrade it'd probably be your best bet. The 1090T is already getting to the point where it can't run certain games because it lacks the SSE4 instruction set.
yeah, thinking it might be the only option. Though. Not sure what to get. Would need Motherboard, CPU, Cooler, RAM and new Hard drives. hoping to spend £500-700, though cheaper would always be welcome Lol
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yeah, thinking it might be the only option. Though. Not sure what to get. Would need Motherboard, CPU, Cooler, RAM and new Hard drives. hoping to spend £500-700, though cheaper would always be welcome Lol

Buying anything now would be silly, 7nm Ryzen is launching 7/7. I'd just hold on to what you have until then if you can. If not, just throw together a strong B450/X470 board with a Ryzen 3 1200 and ditch the 1200 for a 3600/3700X/3900X when they launch.

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Buying anything now would be silly, 7nm Ryzen is launching 7/7. I'd just hold on to what you have until then if you can. If not, just throw together a strong B450/X470 board with a Ryzen 3 1200 and ditch the 1200 for a 3600/3700X/3900X when they launch.
Any idea on prices? As im not really looking to spend huge sums Lol
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Depends on your needs but anything below 8GB RAM nowadays is unusable for gaming really. 4GB VRAM is also cutting it close at 1080p.

If you can save up, wait a bit and grab Ryzen 2 3000 series in the summer, say August-September after the first issues are known with motherboards.

If your system is bloated then 8GB RAM will not cut it, plus some games do use 10GB+ even on a 16GB system, it's getting ridiculously out of hand with developers with how much some games use RAM and VRAM, it's OK if they use unused resources to speed up loading but when it's a hard requirement then that's way too much.

Doing a full upgrade is a better choice at this point than trying to get used parts especially if you're not at a place where such parts are common, plus many people already upgraded from those DDR3 systems. Although with a move to Ryzen 2 you may see some parts pop up on used market.

Decide your budget and needs. Do you want iGPU or dGPU, etc.

I don't think Ryzen 2 will have APUs at launch so you would need a dGPU. Those nice new APUs will probably arrive later. Considering how much improvement there is with Ryzen 2 I would not bother with Ryzen 1 or 1.5. Motherboard is also best bought with the new CPU and not buy the older while cheaper they will lack proper support for PCIe4, VRMs for the more cores CPUs, UEFI support until updates get done, etc.

Wait August, then buy new. Pretty much all at this point, there is likely nothing to reuse from old system except drives, fans, maybe case if you have a good one.

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Any idea on prices? As im not really looking to spend huge sums Lol
For Zen 2 this is the info we have so far
  • Ryzen 9 3950X—16C/32T, 3.5GHz to 4.7GHz, 72MB cache, 105W TDP, $749 (in September)
  • Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499
  • Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399
  • Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329
  • Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249
  • Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199
  • Ryzen 5 3400G—(Zen+) 4C/8T, 3.7GHz to 4.2GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 11 Graphics at 1400MHz, 65W TDP, $149
  • Ryzen 3 3200G—(Zen+) 4C/4T, 3.6GHz to 4.0GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 8 Graphics at 1250MHz, 65W TDP, $99
$99 US converted to british pounds is about £79 for the 3200G $149 US converted is about £117,5 for the 3400G
The 3600 at $199 US would be about £157

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