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Upgrade path - 1055T to 2700X or 3600

I'm still running a 1055T and finally upgrading.

I just picked up a 2700X with a Asus Prime X370 Pro for $199 for CPU and $20 for Mobo from MC - both new.

However, I need to get that board flashed to use the chip - I will try through AMDs bootkit program.

However, seeing that the 3600 is coming out in two days, is the above worth it over a 3600 + MSI B450 (so I can flash without CPU) I would get totaling around $280?

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don't think anyone can answer that for you. would what you use your PC for benefit from more threads or from higher clock speed/IPC?

if the former, keep the 2700X. if the latter, get the 3600.

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don't think anyone can answer that for you. would what you use your PC for benefit from more threads or from higher clock speed/IPC?

if the former, keep the 2700X. if the latter, get the 3600.
At this point I'm a much more casual user - evidently given I'm still running my sig rig and it doesn't really bother me but figured it's time for an upgrade. Don't game nearly as much as I used but other than games, nothing is really core or processor intensive.

I'm now weighing $220 for a 2700X+X370 vs 3600+B450. But I'm pretty out of the loop at this point so no as familiar with chipset and Zen+ and Zen 2 differences and can't find clear breakdowns.

I thought the X370 is a great board, especially at $20 but maybe not enough to outweigh the benefits of Zen2? Would there be any significant difference going X370 vs B450 if I'm not Dual GPU?

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nothing wrong with X370 and the Prime X370 should handle the 7nm Ryzen CPUs fine, it got a BIOS update to support 7nm on BIOS 4801. Not sure if I would run a 12 or 16 core on it, but it should handle a 3600 plenty fine.

X570 will have PCI-E Gen4, integrated 10Gb ethernet, and more USB 3.1 Gen2 ports. It should have better PBO support for 7nm but if you manually OC that shouldn't matter.

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If I go for 3600, I won't be getting X570 as the prices seem a bit more than what I want to spend, unless there are lower cost options as well but I'm settling on a B450 otherwise.

If I keep the X370, it will go with the 2700X as they were bundled together @ $219.

Alternative was 3600+MSI B450 for $299.

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If the only thing you do that’s processor-intensive is game, the 3600 will be better at that. Keep in mind you’ll also need new RAM, DDR4, preferably not slow ones because Ryzen Infinity Fabric is 1/2 RAM speed.

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If the only thing you do that’s processor-intensive is game, the 3600 will be better at that. Keep in mind you’ll also need new RAM, DDR4, preferably not slow ones because Ryzen Infinity Fabric is 1/2 RAM speed.
Yeah, I'm waiting on ram deals to pick up a decent kit. So I guess best off to return the $220 2700X+X370 and pick up a 3600+B450 for around $300.

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If I go for 3600, I won't be getting X570 as the prices seem a bit more than what I want to spend, unless there are lower cost options as well but I'm settling on a B450 otherwise.

If I keep the X370, it will go with the 2700X as they were bundled together @ $219.

Alternative was 3600+MSI B450 for $299.
Why can't you use the X370 with the 3600? If it needs a bios update regardless, does it really matter which CPU you use with it?
MC sure as heck shouldn't care which AM4 board you buy with an AM4 CPU.
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Why can't you use the X370 with the 3600? If it needs a bios update regardless, does it really matter which CPU you use with it?
The $20 X370 deal was due to the bundle. If I return the 2700X, I have to return the X370 with it.

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If the only thing you do that’s processor-intensive is game, the 3600 will be better at that. Keep in mind you’ll also need new RAM, DDR4, preferably not slow ones because Ryzen Infinity Fabric is 1/2 RAM speed.

7nm is 1:1 until 3733 and then drops to 2:1 above 3733.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...7nm,39609.html

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