Step 1: slap some B-Die IC's on a PCB
Step 2: repaint the heatsink of the orignal Trident-Z, pre-program SoC voltage instead of VCCIO/SA
Step 3: Sell at premium to Ryzen users
Step 4: ?????
Step 5: Profit
Bearded Hardware was booting a TridentZ Royal 4000CL17 kit at 3800 12-11-11-11 tRFC 180 and benching with Aida and some Cinebench. It was a 1.9V, but I think it speaks well for the new Ryzen 3000 IMC.
Stupid question - Trident z neo F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC with ryzen 2600 on x570 mb?
Hi all,
I know this may be a stupid question. I'm aware that they are for intended for ryzen 3000 cpu's, however they are literally half the price atm than the trident z rgb.
Was wondering if there is any comparability with the ryzen 2000 series at all for now? I plan to upgrade to a ryzen 3700x in the next 6 months (hence why i have an x570 mb), but i need some ram in the next month just to have a decent setup until then.
Thank you in advance, and I apologise if this really is a stupid question.
Yeah, not getting this. These are running for half the price of the RGB, are they running the same speed?I can go 64gb for less than the 32GB(2x16) RGB that I had planned to buy. What's the catch?
They are HYNIX C-Die. At least the 64GB 3600 CL16 kit is. This is the catch of their lower price.
Good thing is that they run flawlessly on a cheap Z390 Gaming X and 9400F, full 4x16 kit @ XMP.
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Nope, Memtest still shows errors even at 1.40vdimm
Sending mine back.
In my opinion, no reason to pay for the RGB version if u don't care for the lighting effects.
Especially when u can get very decent performance for a good price.
In my case, paying 110£ for 3200 Samsung b-dies which can easily overclock to 3600 was a good deal.
Hi, still waiting for availability memory g.skill 32GTZN is there really that obvious difference between F4-3600C16D-32GTZN and F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC. thx
Hi, still waiting for availability memory g.skill 32GTZN is there really that obvious difference between F4-3600C16D-32GTZN and F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC. thx
Yeah...I already saw people selling almost brand new 3600 C16 kits, almost certain they thought they're B-Die lol I've already got my money back for mine.
The N should be good, NC is poop. Jokes aside, C probably stands for Hynix C-Die as I've already seen kits that ended with -B, that should be B-Die then.
You can see it by looking at the timings anyway, if the first 3 are equal, it's B-Die. I took a shot since I remember the first Zen kits, even if B-Die, were somehow detuned as compared to Intel kits but that's a thing of the past.
The N should be good, NC is poop. Jokes aside, C probably stands for Hynix C-Die as I've already seen kits that ended with -B, that should be B-Die then.
You can see it by looking at the timings anyway, if the first 3 are equal, it's B-Die. I took a shot since I remember the first Zen kits, even if B-Die were somehow detuned as compared to Intel kits but that's a thing of the past.
Using F4-3600C18Q-64GTZN and so far happy with it. Then again, I am a very basic overclocker.
Stock is 3600 but the KIT happily runs at 3733/1866 with the same timings and voltage. IF also at 1866.
Around 2 GB/s improvements on Copy, write and read going from 3600 to 3733.
Latency down from 75ns to 72ns
I guess some more performance can be squeezed out of these sticks, but I am not good at it.
I have similar RAM (G.SKill F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW) and they are right now at 3800 Mhz 16-16-16-32 with 1.41v 100% stable and with no errors under memory tests (memtest86, test memory 5 and karhu). They are B-dies and works perfectly with Ryzen 3000.
Not bad for 2x8 gb F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC. This is the "Fast" preset on DRAM Calculator without any additional tweaks. Thaiphoon said this was Hynix CJR a version or so ago, but the latest version labels this as DJR. What is DJR? That's not even listed in DRAM calculator.
Well, 16-21-21 you don't call it exactly so hard to achieve..
And AIDA scores all come from the CPU.
If u had a 3600-3700, you would see some really low scores.
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