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Ryzen 3000 series impact of memory speeds on gaming?

I have 64gb of various sized DDR4 from older PCs, fastest is 2400mhz. Bought a Ryzen 5 3600 and ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming AM4. Can I use the old 2400mhz ddr4 or should I spend $65 for 16gb of 3200mhz ddr4? Will 3200mhz make a difference on games compared to 2400mhz?

nevermind looks like this answers my questions, 5% more fps with 3200 vs 2400
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How about difference(1-3FPS) ,it depends on the gamer in question. Wizzard did a great job but it is impossible for him to cover all the combinations of memory.For example if you game at resolutions above 1920x1080 and set your ram timings correctly no real difference really.
I also have Ryzen 3600X and it has not changed for me DDR4 2133Mhz-DDR4 4000Mhz on some games I tested.Have not tested higher than DDR4 4000Mhz yet,just not enough time.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider Test

♦ 2133Mhz (16GB)CL10-10-10-10-21
♦ 2400mhz (16GB)CL10-11-11-11-21
♦ 3200mhz (16GB)CL14-14-14-14-28
♦ 3600mhz (16GB)CL14-15-15-15-42



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Quote: Originally Posted by gerardfraser View Post
How about difference(1-3FPS) ,it depends on the gamer in question. Wizzard did a great job but it is impossible for him to cover all the combinations of memory.For example if you game at resolutions above 1920x1080 and set your ram timings correctly no real difference really.
I also have Ryzen 3600X and it has not changed for me DDR4 2133Mhz-DDR4 4000Mhz on some games I tested.Have not tested higher than DDR4 4000Mhz yet,just not enough time.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider Test

♦ 2133Mhz (16GB)CL10-10-10-10-21
♦ 2400mhz (16GB)CL10-11-11-11-21
♦ 3200mhz (16GB)CL14-14-14-14-28
♦ 3600mhz (16GB)CL14-15-15-15-42


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdz1hRKzPqk&t=100s

Thank you and +rep. So, just for one game at 1440, it is showing hardly any difference even with a 1080 Ti. Are you gonna test other games?

Also, you gonna be testing the Ryzen 3000, too?

BTW, the G.Skill FlareX 3200 has gone down so much in price.

Maybe the impact on 1080P is more pronounced. Check this out . . . using 3466MHz CL14.


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x570 is still compatible with Ryzen 5 3600, could stockpile that cash someday for the 4400Mhz Ram capability

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x570 is still compatible with Ryzen 5 3600, could stockpile that cash someday for the 4400Mhz Ram capability

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I am working my way up to DDR4 4400Mhz on my MSI X470 Gaming Plus @ DDR4 CL16 4200Mhz testing now


Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
Thank you and +rep. So, just for one game at 1440, it is showing hardly any difference even with a 1080 Ti. Are you gonna test other games?

Also, you gonna be testing the Ryzen 3000, too?

BTW, the G.Skill FlareX 3200 has gone down so much in price.

Maybe the impact on 1080P is more pronounced. Check this out . . . using 3466MHz CL14.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEslh6hGpYQ
Oh I tested 10+ games with the Ryzen 5 2600X and they were all the same.Yeah once you go 2560x1440 or higher and set ram timings ,pretty much the same stuff.
I do not even own overwatch but have close to 200 games install,looks to fast for my old butt.I see you hit over 300FPS a couple time .

Also testing Ryzen 5 3600X Ram stability as I type at CL16 4200Mhz on my G.Skill Trident Z 16GB DDR4(F4-4000C18D-16GTZ)

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Quote: Originally Posted by gerardfraser View Post
I am working my way up to DDR4 4400Mhz on my MSI X470 Gaming Plus @ DDR4 CL16 4200Mhz testing now




Oh I tested 10+ games with the Ryzen 5 2600X and they were all the same.Yeah once you go 2560x1440 or higher and set ram timings ,pretty much the same stuff.
I do not even own overwatch but have close to 200 games install,looks to fast for my old butt.I see you hit over 300FPS a couple time .

Also testing Ryzen 5 3600X Ram stability as I type at CL16 4200Mhz on my G.Skill Trident Z 16GB DDR4(F4-4000C18D-16GTZ)

42! Nice! Do you mind benching that in Cinebench? I know going from 3200MHz to 3466MHz gained like 30 pts. in CB15. Same with CB20 on Ryzen 1+.

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The impact is going to be less significant than it was in Ryzen 1000/2000 series, primarily due to the doubled capacity L3 cache in Ryzen 3000.

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The impact is going to be less significant than it was in Ryzen 1000/2000 series, primarily due to the doubled capacity L3 cache in Ryzen 3000.
That was im thinking too. I believe AMD's solution is just that - L3/ game cache - as they stated.

If compared to previous gen. Zen 1+'s 3200 CL14 tuned is about equal to Zen 2's 3600 CL16 in latency.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
42! Nice! Do you mind benching that in Cinebench? I know going from 3200MHz to 3466MHz gained like 30 pts. in CB15. Same with CB20 on Ryzen 1+.
Forgot about this post,not sure memory make a difference really.Did this last week of course I did not included ram timings in screen grab .Also anything over around 1900+ breaks FCLK in BIOS which halves the speed of FCLK so gonna have to wait to test higher Ram Speeds with somewhat semi accurate results.

AMD gave what they said was the improvement.

2600X 4350Mhz 1501/181 Cinbench
vs
3600X 4350Mhz 1731/202 Cinbench

Multi
1731-1501=230 difference
230/1501=0.15323117921 x 100 = 15.3% difference

Single
202-181=21 difference
21/181=0.11602209944 x 100= 11.6% difference



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