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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 08-06-2019, 12:39 PM - Thread Starter
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Opinions On Upgrading

My current build is as follows

CPU: Ryzen 3 2200g oced to 4 ghz
Mobo: ASRock B350 Pro 4
Ram: 2 x 8gb Gskill Ripjaws 2400 oced to 2666
PSU: Corsair CX750m
GPU: XFX RX480 8GB
Disk 1: 500gb Crucial MX500
Disk 2: 1tb WD Blue

Im getting ready to order a Ryzen 5 3600, and a Seasonic Focus Gold 650w PSU, I feel like those are my weakest points of my pc. After those two items, I have another $100 in my upgrade budget, do I go with faster RAM? Or should my upgrade path look altogether different? Some opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: To be a bit more clear, I have a 75hz 1080p monitor, and 99% of my usage is gaming
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post #2 of 50 (permalink) Old 08-06-2019, 12:45 PM
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I'd personally say the GPU is the weakest link. Upgrading to an RTX 2060/ 1070 Ti level card will do more for you than the new CPU will.

Your PSU was rated as being not too bad by johnny guru. I had the same one in my system for years. It only puts out 650 watts but that's more than enough for your system even after upgrades.


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While a PSU upgrade wouldn't be the worst, I think it may be kind of a waste (especially from a performance perspective). I would just get a 3600 (or a 2600/1600 if the prices are right and OC them).

Ram could be okay, but likely it will be a waste: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...nchmark/4.html (seems to be a 5-7% jump from 2666 to 3200c14 at 1080p; not worth replacing your kit unless you can upgrade for ~$10-20 (buy a 3000 kit for ~50-60; sell your kit for ~40 or whatever it goes for). Unless you get a new monitor soon, your system + a slightly better CPU would be pretty balanced at 1080p 75hz.

For reference, I game at 1440p144hz with a 1600 at 4GHz (and a 1080ti, lol talk about "unbalanced" [at least price wise]) and usually don't have much CPU bottleneck going on (usually lowering GPU settings will get me to at least 142hz [limit to keep Gsync enabled; not sure if that is still necessary]); though I do have 3200c14 ram.

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I'd personally say the GPU is the weakest link. Upgrading to an RTX 2060/ 1070 Ti level card will do more for you than the new CPU will.

Your PSU was rated as being not too bad by johnny guru. I had the same one in my system for years. It only puts out 650 watts but that's more than enough for your system even after upgrades.
A 580 seems to hit close to 75 frames at most of the games I saw on Techpowerup's GTX 1660ti review (which I believe they generally have games set to 'ultra'), so I'm not sure how much of a boost going from a 480 to a 1070ti will get him if he is 'monitor' bottlenecked.

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Even with an RX480 the CPU is already hogging the card tightly. It's either change both or it's wasted money.

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I ran the same CPU at the same clockspeed with a GTX 1080 and the CPU was only a small bottleneck.

It wasn't as much of a drag on performance as you'd expect on paper.


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Quote: Originally Posted by BroadPwns View Post
Even with an RX480 the CPU is already hogging the card tightly. It's either change both or it's wasted money.
Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
I ran the same CPU at the same clockspeed with a GTX 1080 and the CPU was only a small bottleneck.

It wasn't as much of a drag on performance as you'd expect on paper.
It honestly blows my mind how 'little' CPU power is needed these days (or conversely, how powerful "low-end" CPUs are in current games).
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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
I ran the same CPU at the same clockspeed with a GTX 1080 and the CPU was only a small bottleneck.

It wasn't as much of a drag on performance as you'd expect on paper.

Sure, whatever . Given this CPU is at a level of i5 7500 at most, my 4690k @4.7GHz already bottlenecked my late 290X in 1080p


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It honestly blows my mind how 'little' CPU power is needed these days (or conversely, how powerful "low-end" CPUs are in current games).

2200G is saved by the fact it has 8 threads but it's too weak CPU for RX 480 already. Games are becoming more and more demanding in both thread count and raw CPU strength.

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What games do you play? With vsync or not. High or lower settings? Is image quality important to you? Cause I recommend 1440p variable refresh at 144hz. Wait for a sale. I did purchase my Acer xg270hu for a little over 300. It is also officially considered Gsync compatible. Hopefully price has raises because of that. Youll want to turn down some graphic settings your CPU will seem like less of a bottleneck at the higher resolution. My cpu is 4c/8t gtx 1060 3gb.
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Quote: Originally Posted by BroadPwns View Post
Sure, whatever . Given this CPU is at a level of i5 7500 at most, my 4690k @4.7GHz already bottlenecked my late 290X in 1080p

2200G is saved by the fact it has 8 threads but it's too weak CPU for RX 480 already. Games are becoming more and more demanding in both thread count and raw CPU strength.
The 2200g is a 4c 4t cpu, and you are right about it bottle necking my 480 slightly

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What games do you play? With vsync or not. High or lower settings? Is image quality important to you? Cause I recommend 1440p variable refresh at 144hz. Wait for a sale. I did purchase my Acer xg270hu for a little over 300. It is also officially considered Gsync compatible. Hopefully price has raises because of that. Youll want to turn down some graphic settings your CPU will seem like less of a bottleneck at the higher resolution. My cpu is 4c/8t gtx 1060 3gb.
Lately ive been playing Apex Legends, Some heavily modded Skyrim, I have a few other current AAA titles Im waiting to play. I think I want to stick with my monitor for a while. I have limited desk space and for the games I play it is sufficient
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The 2200g is a 4c 4t cpu, and you are right about it bottle necking my 480 slightly



Lately ive been playing Apex Legends, Some heavily modded Skyrim, I have a few other current AAA titles Im waiting to play. I think I want to stick with my monitor for a while. I have limited desk space and for the games I play it is sufficient
Are you getting much lower than 60 frames in any of the games you play? Or do you just have an upgrade itch? Just curious. If you really want to upgrade; I'd get the 3600 (or one of the gen 1/2 Ryzen 6+ cores) and save the rest until you have enough for a substantial GPU upgrade (or try to get a 24" 1440p 144hz monitor ! Honestly though, 1080p at <27" really isn't that bad and freesync+75hz feels snappy enough in game).
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