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post #41 of 51 (permalink) Old 09-20-2019, 04:51 AM - Thread Starter
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Oh, and @Synoxia It seems like it's not just me thinking its problems with the new ABBA bios rather than my CPU.

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post #42 of 51 (permalink) Old 09-20-2019, 05:12 AM
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What is your ProcODT set at? I found high RAM speeds unstable with the ProcODT set above 40 ohms.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ajlueke View Post
What is your ProcODT set at? I found high RAM speeds unstable with the ProcODT set above 40 ohms.
36.9 as in my Ryzen Master screenshot above
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post #44 of 51 (permalink) Old 09-20-2019, 06:47 AM
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Okay. I do currently have 4x8Gb RAM stable at 3600CL16 1:1 FCLK at 1.35V. My timings are similar to what you have listed, but a little bit different.
I set ProcODT to 40 ohms, and the DRAM boot voltage in the Digi menu to 1.35V as well.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Swissola View Post
Oh, and @Synoxia It seems like it's not just me thinking its problems with the new ABBA bios rather than my CPU.

Jay normally knows what he's talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdxyTWSeRx4
Try reverting to an older bios, i have the same FCLK behaviour on all bioses.

FCLK oc is about luck, i still can't believe my 3700x can do 1915 FCLK where others have problems starting from 1867 or even 1800. If turns out it's the cpu and you bought from amazon, easy return and buy it back again

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I can boot at stock memory speeds with 1900 FCLK no issues at all, even on this new ABBA BIOS.

It's when i try and set my memory with a matching MCLK that I can't get it past the POST (which I could on the earlier BIOS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ). I'm going back to basics and possibly spending the next few weeks/months learning how to first troubleshoot boot frequencies/voltages then moving on to secondary timings.

If anyone knows any more resources (apart from the few easily googled, such as the Ryzen 1usmus guide on Techpowerup), I'd be really happy to read them, especially if there's any more general step by step guides to what you should try in what order and any settings you should should consider codependant with others and why.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Swissola View Post
I can boot at stock memory speeds with 1900 FCLK no issues at all, even on this new ABBA BIOS.

It's when i try and set my memory with a matching MCLK that I can't get it past the POST (which I could on the earlier BIOS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ). I'm going back to basics and possibly spending the next few weeks/months learning how to first troubleshoot boot frequencies/voltages then moving on to secondary timings.

If anyone knows any more resources (apart from the few easily googled, such as the Ryzen 1usmus guide on Techpowerup), I'd be really happy to read them, especially if there's any more general step by step guides to what you should try in what order and any settings you should should consider codependant with others and why.
Uhm. Then could be your memory are simply not up to the task. Enable GDM first thing (I have one kit that refuses to boot without GDM) put 3800 mem speed with everything auto except UCLK = memclk (you can find this in XFR enhancement option advanced -> amd cbs) gdm on and dram vboot + dram voltage 1.55. You should be able to boot with 3800 1=1 with absurd timings (for now atleast)

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Some values you can try.

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
BCLK Frequency [100.0000]
BCLK_Divider [Auto]
Performance Enhancer [Auto]
CPU Core Ratio [43.00]
Performance Bias [None]
Memory Frequency [DDR4-3800MHz]
FCLK Frequency [1900MHz]
Core Performance Boost [Disabled]
SMT Mode [Enabled]
TPU [Keep Current Settings]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Auto]
Max CPU Boost Clock Override [Auto]
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit [Auto]
Mem Over Clock Fail Count [Auto]
DRAM CAS# Latency [16]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [17]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [16]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [16]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [34]
Trc [50]
TrrdS [6]
TrrdL [8]
Tfaw [24]
TwtrS [5]
TwtrL [14]
Twr [14]
Trcpage [Auto]
TrdrdScl [4]
TwrwrScl [4]
Trfc [304]
Trfc2 [186]
Trfc4 [128]
Tcwl [16]
Trtp [8]
Trdwr [8]
Twrrd [3]
TwrwrSc [1]
TwrwrSd [7]
TwrwrDd [7]
TrdrdSc [1]
TrdrdSd [5]
TrdrdDd [5]
Tcke [1]
ProcODT [34.3 ohm]
Cmd2T [1T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RttNom [Rtt_Nom Disable]
RttWr [Dynamic ODT Off]
RttPark [RZQ/5]
MemAddrCmdSetup [0]
MemCsOdtSetup [0]
MemCkeSetup [0]
MemCadBusClkDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusCsOdtDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusCkeDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
CPU Load-line Calibration [Level 4]
CPU Current Capability [120%]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Auto]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
Active Frequency Mode [Disabled]
CPU Power Duty Control [T.Probe]
CPU Power Phase Control [Extreme]
CPU Power Thermal Control [120]
VDDSOC Load-line Calibration [Level 4]
VDDSOC Current Capability [120%]
VDDSOC Switching Frequency [Manual]
Fixed VDDSOC Switching Frequency(KHz) [400]
VDDSOC Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Current Capability [100%]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Auto]
DRAM VBoot Voltage [1.47500]
VTTDDR Voltage [0.73750]
VPP_MEM Voltage [2.50000]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
VDDP Voltage [0.90000]
1.8V Standby Voltage [Auto]
CPU 3.3v AUX [Auto]
2.5V SB Voltage [Auto]
DRAM R1 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R2 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R3 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R4 Tune [Auto]
PCIE Tune R1 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R2 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R3 [Auto]
PLL Tune R1 [Auto]
PLL reference voltage [Auto]
T Offset [Auto]
Sense MI Skew [Auto]
Sense MI Offset [Auto]
Promontory presence [Auto]
Clock Amplitude [Auto]
CLDO VDDP voltage [1050]
CPU Core Voltage [Manual mode]
- CPU Core Voltage Override [1.36250]
CPU SOC Voltage [Manual mode]
- VDDSOC Voltage Override [1.10000]
DRAM Voltage [1.47500]
CLDO VDDG voltage [1.060]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]
1.05V SB Voltage [Auto]
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Quote: Originally Posted by Swissola View Post
If anyone knows any more resources (apart from the few easily googled, such as the Ryzen 1usmus guide on Techpowerup), I'd be really happy to read them, especially if there's any more general step by step guides to what you should try in what order and any settings you should should consider codependant with others and why.
Here you go


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...FI-setup-guide



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Quote: Originally Posted by Swissola View Post
Anyone else finding the new ABBA release very unstable regarding OC potential compared to the old ABB?

I've been trying for the last couple of days on and off to get even 3600 SAFE settings stable and I cant even get a Default Membench test to complete without errors?

I'd appreciate any tips if anyone has any. I'm using a 4 DIMM set up with the current 3600 SAFE 1.6.2 settings
Now that we have ABBA for the MSI X370 Titanium I can comment on this.

Yes, I am seeing the same thing, 3800/1900 was rock stable, with ABBA I couldnt even boot with IF @ 1900, until I switched the position of the memory modules and even then IF is far from stable!

So currently running stress tests using 3770/1885 with BCKL @101 , giving me IF frequency of 1885 mhz, which is going well so far.


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