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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-19-2019, 08:07 PM - Thread Starter
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AMD Build - Mobo and monitor advice

So it's been around 5 or 6 years now and I'm ready for an upgrade. I'm switch back to AMD this time around given all the great things I read about Ryzen chips. After doing a bunch of research I need some opinions to break a few ties.

Mobo: ASUS TUF Gaming Plus X570 (non Wifi) or Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570

I've heard good things about both boards. The Asus has a couple extra features like debug lights and rear USB-C connector but the Gigabyte has intel LAN and quite frankly I think it looks nicer.

Monitor: Gigabyte Aorus 27" AD27QA or Samsung 32" CHG70 or Asus 32" XG32VQR or LG 32" 32GK850f-b

I'm getting a Gigabyte 5700 XT Gaming OC so I want a great monitor to get the most out of it. I'd like a 32" but need to be at least some what mindful of cost. Would like to keep this around the $700 mark or so.

Rest of the build will be a Ryzen 5 3600 and 32GB G.Skill Trident Neo 16CAS. I was going to get the 3700X but from what I've read it won't make that much of a difference for gaming with the video card I'm getting.

Appreciate any opinions. Cheers!

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If you're going with an R5 3600, there isn't a reason to get the X570 boards. I'd only bother with the X570 boards if you plan on overclocking an R9 3900X or 3950X (the good B450 boards can handle them fine stock and the B450i Gaming Plus AC can actually handle some overclocking on the 3900X and potentially the 3950X if you have a fan blowing on the VRM heatsink).

The MSi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC has Intel LAN and Intel WLAN (9260 so dual-band AC and Bluetooth 5) and is $130, plus there's no heatsink fan so there's one less moving part to fail over time. The carbon fiber stickers look like they're removable so if you peel those off, you should get a really clean looking board. It has BIOS flashback so if you happen to get a board without the Ryzen 3000 supporting BIOS preflashed, you won't need to ask your vendor or AMD for one of those spare Athlons to flash.

For RAM I'd just get the 2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 or 3200MHz ($140-$150) and just overclock it to 3600-3800MHz to max out the infinity fabric clock while staying in 1:1 MCLK:FCLK mode. Just use the timings from the Ryzen DRAM calculator.

For the monitor, the LG one you listed is equally as good as the others despite being the least expensive of the bunch. Review: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/lg-32gk850f/

The Gigabyte and ASUS ones are more expensive than the LG for no good reason (I can't actually find a price for the Gigabyte but I imagine it is) and the Samsung...well if you want a curved display, go ahead. That's up to you.

HDR isn't particularly worthwhile because there's too many competing HDR standards and not a lot of HDR content. I can only think of a few stray YouTube videos and a handful of movies on Netflix and I think the latter are for the HDR10 and Dolby Vision standards. For the LG, going into HDR mode actually hurts your contrast ratio among other things.

Since you're primarily gaming anyways, the slightly worse off-axis color reproduction on VA compared to IPS (but far better than TN) isn't a big deal since you're not doing color critical work. The extra contrast ratio for going with VA is probably going to be more worthwhile.

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I want to get the x570 for future proofing and getting a Gen4 NVME. Plus price isn't all that much of a concern.

The only downside I can see of the LG is that it doesn't have black frame insertion which increases screen flicker. Not sure how much of a difference it is but that has me on the fence a bit. Definetly not getting any of these for HDR. For that to be worth while I'd have to go to the ultra high end monitors and thats just a bit much. If the samsung drop in price I think it would be a good pick up since it has local dimming, even if it is limited.

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Were you planning on upgrading the CPU without changing the motherboard at some point? If so then the X570 TUF Gaming Plus is going to be your best choice, though it's worth considering the X570-P Prime if that drops back to $130 again unless you want more features on the board since the Prime is very minimal (personally my preference but that's up to you).

I'm not sure if MSi plans on adding Ryzen 4000 or even 5000 support to the B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC but I highly doubt it since they already had to switch it to ClickBIOS GSE-Lite to add Ryzen 3000 support. Maybe there's still space, in which we're at the mercy of MSi for long-term support which I kind of doubt will happen. By that same token though, maybe X570 boards will get Ryzen 4000 support but not Ryzen 5000 support, so that's also a concern.

As for PCIe 4.0, the only thing I'd expect to take advantage of that bandwidth is SSDs and those will probably stay up in price for another 1.5-2 years. IIRC the current flagship GPUs have finally just surpassed PCIe 3.0 x8 in terms of bandwidth requirement for full performance, so it's going to be awhile before we even saturate 3.0 x16 to warrant PCIe 4.0 x16.

Frankly, there isn't much merit in building to futureproof.

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Yeah my plan was to wait and see what the next generation of Ryzen's will be like. My original plan was to get a 3700x but based on the benchmarks I've seen and the video card I'm buying the CPU isn't going to be the bottleneck and a 3600 will do for now. Plus I'll get to satisfy my upgrade itch in a year or two again.

Any particular reason you give the Asus the edge over the Gigabyte?

Also, do you think having memory that is on the QVL is important? The G.Skill RAM I want to get is on the Asus QVL but not Gigabytes, at least not for the Elite.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ravagethorn View Post
Yeah my plan was to wait and see what the next generation of Ryzen's will be like. My original plan was to get a 3700x but based on the benchmarks I've seen and the video card I'm buying the CPU isn't going to be the bottleneck and a 3600 will do for now. Plus I'll get to satisfy my upgrade itch in a year or two again.

Any particular reason you give the Asus the edge over the Gigabyte?

Also, do you think having memory that is on the QVL is important? The G.Skill RAM I want to get is on the Asus QVL but not Gigabytes, at least not for the Elite.
For X570, I'm honestly just parroting what Buildzoid says but from what I remember, its VRM basically outclasses most if not all of the motherboards in the same price range and up. I'd check his motherboard roundup video.


I wasn't interested in any of the X570 boards so I haven't bothered looking through their power delivery systems.

As for the QVL, not important unless you're buying those stupidly expensive 4400MHz+ kits which nobody should be buying (and you shouldn't be running those speeds on Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 anyways. Your target is 3600-3800MHz on Ryzen 3000 depending on how fast your FCLK can go without switching to 2:1 mode).

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Thanks for the info. I think I'm going with the Asus board, plus even though it may not mean much the RAM is on the QVL.

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dont get x570 for future proofing because next year new amd cpus will ryze and it will 80% chances not be supported by older mobos.

r5-1600 4.1 1.431vcore 3020 cb20 score max temp 76.4c
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dont get x570 for future proofing because next year new amd cpus will ryze and it will 80% chances not be supported by older mobos.
Next year Gen3 or Ryzen 4000 will be out and even some B350s will work. Gen 4 will follow and will require a new socket for sure.

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Ah nice so my 1600 got about two more years of lifespan

r5-1600 4.1 1.431vcore 3020 cb20 score max temp 76.4c
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