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post #11 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 08:41 AM
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The 4790K was in my previous gaming rig, great CPU, but with only DDR3, does show its age a little.

I suggest:

AMD 3700X
16 or 32GB DDR4 @3600 or faster
GTX 2080
X570 MoBo (PCI-E 4.0)

Since you want it to last as long as possible, those would be my recommendations for gaming and can handle 1440P should you upgrade your monitor down the road.

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post #12 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 08:46 AM
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You might be best served by simply upgrading to a 2080ti if you are going to 1440p.

I don't think it's possible to run 144 fps on the games you mentioned at 1440p no matter how much hardware you throw at it. 5 ghz 9900k/2080ti only managed 92 fps on techspot's benchmarks.
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ok so for cpu's its either 3700-3800-3900 or intels 9700-9900
and for GPU's - i think 2080 super might be worth it for the extra performence


memory i can get one of the corsair 3600mhz CL16 rgb for a decent price
but what about other parts of the build


Like mobo models? should i go for asus/msi/gigabyte?
what about Cooling- should i go for AIO this time? which models got great reviewS?
and Case/PSU/Top SSDs' m4 - this also parts that i have no clue on which ones the best for long term.
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post #14 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 08:51 AM
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Intel's the king of most games
Only chip Intel has not slashed prices on yet is 9900KS still holding at 570.us
I have no idea about the 9600F it seems way overpriced 499.99

So indeed if you like options now is a good time to be very confused on which platform

Memory wise you'd want to use this app to find something worth getting b-die good for pretty much either platform

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

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LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
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evga 1200-P2
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Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
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EVGA 1000-P2
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2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
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If there is no budget: 2080Ti. Avoid FE version.

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post #16 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 08:56 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Actually a perfect time to build.
AMD finally offering a product worth seriously considering
Intel slashing prices.
Agreed, the only thing coming soon is the nvidia 3000 series, rumored to launch in March with the 3080 (non-Ti) coming in June last I checked.

AMD's new CPUs are very good for the price, once you go up to 1440p you're going to be a bit more GPU bound where the CPU typically isn't going to make much of a difference in gaming. If you want to do anything related to editing or streaming in the future I'd go with AMD without thinking about it.
If your main purpose is gaming and you plan to stay at 1080p for a while Intel is going to be the better choice.

Personally I had a mobo die last week and decided to upgrade from a 6700K to a 9900K ($449 on sale, 5.0GHz out of the box) and am very happy with the upgrade. Why did I go with the 9900K? I plan on staying on this 2560x1080 21:9 144Hz monitor until 4K ones come out in a couple of years and I can reuse my waterblock.

While my sig rig doesn't show it I'm running a typical 9900K @ 5.0GHz + EVGA RTX 2080 Super FTW3 Hydro Copper @ 2115MHz combo. The 2080 Ti Hydro Copper was $1500 at the time I purchased my 2080 Super for $800. Not worth the extra $700 at all.

Here's a video showing the 3950X, 3900X, 3700X and 3600 against Intel's CPUs in gaming and workloads at 1080p and 1440p

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Intel's the king of most games
Only chip Intel has not slashed prices on yet is 9900KS still holding at 570.us
I have no idea about the 9600F it seems way overpriced 499.99

So indeed if you like options now is a good time to be very confused on which platform

Memory wise you'd want to use this app to find something worth getting b-die good for pretty much either platform

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

hi
dont realy know what bdiefinder is xD


I have planned few parts for a new pc

let me know what do you think about these parts:
Cpu-9900/9700/3700/3800/3900x

Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V7S1T0B/AM) MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDRR6 256-Bit HDMI/DP Nvlink Tri-Frozr Turing Architecture Overclocked Graphics Card (RTX 2080 Super Gaming X Trio)

MSI MPG Z390 Gaming PRO Carbon LGA1151 (Intel 8th and 9th Gen) M.2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 DDR4 HDMI DP SLI CFX ATX Z390 Gaming Motherboard
Corsair CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 Desktop Memory Black
ARCTIC MX-4 - Thermal Compound Paste For Coolers | Heat Sink Paste | Composed of Carbon Micro-particles | Easy to Apply | High Durability - 4 Grams
Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,360mm,Triple ML120 PWM Fans, Intel 115x/2066, AMD AM4


not sure about amd mboards



now what about the PSU?does it even matter or just 1 strong 860-1000W will be good?
and what about cases? its another part im not familiar with
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CPU's: Intel and AMD are competing -> Great time to buy.

Ram: Prices are low -> Great time to buy

Motherboards: Great features but prices can be high -> Good time to buy

GPU: Little top end competition = Nvidia price gouging. AMD and Nvidia set to release new cards around the corner. RTX a new feature -> Poor time to buy

HDD's: Spinning disk prices are pennies/GB, SSD's Flash is low -> Great time to by

Power Supplies: Market is stagnant but modern PC power requirements are reasonable -> Average time to buy

Case: Mixed bag. Do you want performance or looks? RGB vomit everywhere -> Below average time to buy

Fans: Market is stagnant-ish? More RGB vomit -> Average time to buy.

Overall, its a very good time to build / upgrade your computer excluding GPU. Either use an old one or buy a used one that can hold you over for a bit. Even if you only want mid range / 1080p gaming "good enough" cards, prices are set to drop with new cards around the corner. I'd wait on purchasing a GPU.

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post #19 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-22-2019, 10:12 AM
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Hi,
Amazon got the samsung m.2's on sell now 500gb for like 90.us

3200C16 don't bother get 3200C14 only b-die finder can give you product number to search with

Trident-z neon though is better
https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Tride...4442643&sr=8-1

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Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
Mouse
Red Dragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
Hard Drive
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Quote: Originally Posted by nirosxs View Post
now what about the PSU?does it even matter or just 1 strong 860-1000W will be good?
that V1000 you have is fine, there is even room for microwave since i doubt you'll see more than 600 watts usage w/everything fully stressed.

Remember the golden rule of statistics: A personal sample size of one is a sufficient basis upon which to draw universal conclusions.
Upload the computer to Dropbox and provide a link to it so others may download it to examine and give advice for repairs.
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