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post #11 of 49 (permalink) Old 12-05-2019, 11:03 AM
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It's absolutely true! The 3rd Gen CPU's take advantage of what the x570 MB's offer. If you put a 3rd Gen CPU in a 1st Gen Motherboard, you are wasting money because your performance gains are very minimal. You get very little performance gain for your $$$

The only thing he will really gain is the extra cores. NO PCIe Gen 4, No extra PCI Lanes that the x570 will support with the 3rd Gen CPU and more and more.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Acertified View Post
It's absolutely true! The 3rd Gen CPU's take advantage of what the x570 MB's offer. If you put a 3rd Gen CPU in a 1st Gen Motherboard, you are wasting money because your performance gains are very minimal.

That's flat wrong. I've already tested it as well as thousands of others. You can search right here on this forum. Back it up with facts or this doesn't mean anything.

Dead wrong. A good X370 , B450, X470 motherboard with quality VRMs are giving you the same performance as X570.

X570 does indeed future proof you with PCIe 4.0 and better memory support for extreme memory clocks but that's it.

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WRONG!!!

We can agree to dis-agree.

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Quote: Originally Posted by chaosblade02 View Post
I don't know how much of a performance boost I'd get for upgrading this CPU for gaming purposes, or if it's even worth it right now. It's paired with a 1080ti, and I run games at 1440p resolution.

How much better are the new Ryzen chips, and would I see any benefit if it's paired with a 1080ti?

1080ti is still a beast for 1440p, and I can probably get by for another year without upgrading it.

Money isn't really a problem, but I don't like spending it on PC parts without very noticeable gains.

Just get a 2700x at 140 bucks right now. You wont have to worry about a bottleneck for long long long time....

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Keep the 1600X, OC it as much as possible, clock ram as high as possible, and wait for the next set of Ryzen chips is what I'd suggest. 1440p is mostly GPU bound. A 3600X is ~6.5% faster than a 1600X (stock vs stock).

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That's flat wrong. I've already tested it as well as thousands of others. You can search right here on this forum. Back it up with facts or this doesn't mean anything.

Dead wrong. A good X370 , B450, X470 motherboard with quality VRMs are giving you the same performance as X570.

X570 does indeed future proof you with PCIe 4.0 and better memory support for extreme memory clocks but that's it.

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Lol, I was wondering what that guy is on. Sure if you want a better nvme drive (Gen 4 x4 drives seem to be ~2x the cost of a Gen 3 x4 drive), X570 makes sense, but IMO you are 100% correct; performance is pretty much identical on a non 5xx series board.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...erboard/2.html

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WRONG!!!

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That doesn't make you right though.

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X570 has more USB Support and most if not all have the USB 3 Gen 2
x570 Has more PCIe Lanes in combination with the 3rd Gen CPU - This is very important when you start loading up your system with PCIe devices
x570 Has PCIe GEN4 - Drastic improvement when transferring files and boot times. You are also ready when the PCIe Gen4 GPU's come out but who knows when that will be
x570 can support more NVME's due to the additional lanes
x570 has better VRM / power Support

I understand what you are saying but there are quite a few advantages of going to x570. There are other things that you can throw your money at if you are staying with a x370 MB that will make more of a difference than a 3rd Gen CPU.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Acertified View Post
X570 has more USB Support and most if not all have the USB 3 Gen 2
x570 Has more PCIe Lanes in combination with the 3rd Gen CPU - This is very important when you start loading up your system with PCIe devices
x570 Has PCIe GEN4 - Drastic improvement when transferring files and boot times. You are also ready when the PCIe Gen4 GPU's come out but who knows when that will be
x570 can support more NVME's due to the additional lanes
x570 has better VRM / power Support

I understand what you are saying but there are quite a few advantages of going to x570. There are other things that you can throw your money at if you are staying with a x370 MB that will make more of a difference than a 3rd Gen CPU.
Sir you specifically said the performance gains would be minimal. We are talking about a 1080Ti, CPU bound scenarios. We are talking about CPU performance here. Nevermind, i'm not entertaining you anymore.

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Unless things have changed, you could get a 2nd Ti.


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My MB is an MSI x370 gaming pro carbon. Not the best MB, but it's not trash tier, either. Somewhere in the middle.

One thing I will say is I'll never buy another MSI product again. A whole bunch of people had issues getting 3200 ram to work, even ram off the MBs QVL, and people were banned on MSI forums, even confirmed owners of the motherboard for MSI bashing in that topic, and their replies deleted. I refuse to deal with a company who can't take criticism. If ram is on their MB QVL, it's supposed to run at specified speeds barring a faulty component.

So yeah, I expect ram to run at specified speeds with the specified settings, 100%, or one or more parts is getting RMA'd and will continue to be RMA'd until it works. I'm never tolerating ram not running at specified speeds again off a MBs QVL list. I'm no doubt setting myself up for a battle on furture PC builds, but somebody has to stand up to false advertising, and/or subpar products and demand what they paid for.


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Updating your bios might give you better performance. I couldn't get 3200 cl14 until I updated mine.

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