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post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-19-2019, 08:55 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Awsan View Post
One more question, how realistic is metal heat saturation in my case?

+ I have traveled with my sig rig for the past 5 years and understand how painful it is to interact with airport officers ( specially when the know that there a water inside the case )
Unlikely unless the case you choose is absolutely awful in terms of airflow.
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pretty sure the AsRock X570 Taichi is T-Toplogy.

daisy chain is better for 2 DIMM OCing, T-Topology is good for 4 DIMM. Daisy Chain is dog poo at OCing 4 DIMMs (my Z390 Taichi won't run more than 2 DIMMs above 3633, two DIMMs I can run 4266) so I have a hard time believing that AMD required it...
Just a heads up, it is not.

Essentially the initial Engineering Sample was T-Top. The released/retail boards are Daisy.

Buildzoid Talked about it when he first got the board -

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that SSD tho

I would highly recommend swapping out that WD Blue SATA SSD for a 1tb Patriot Viper NVMe.
Yes you are getting half the storage for about the same price, but the speed difference will be dramatic. That also puts your M.2 drive to much better use, and you are free to add more SATA drives later if you want using the regular SATA ports.

Edit: I didn't notice that Sabrent Rocket NVMe before. That is pretty much equal performance to the Viper and a little cheaper. Your call.

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post #24 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-21-2019, 11:07 PM - Thread Starter
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Yea sorry for not updating, but I had an mp510 for games and general storage and it didn't feel any faster than my 840 evo as I didn't take full advantage of it, that's why I went with storage>speed for my secondary drive.

But there was a great deal for an mp510 2tb for 220$ and I guess what's an extra 20$ for 6 times the speed.

Thanks everyone for the help , but I was not able to ship the rig within that 24 hours so I am gonna delay it for a couple of weeks.

Gonna get an Nh-d15 chromax instead of the Arctic cooler and the rest will stay the same. ( Won't change the Mobo as I am getting it from Malaysia and not the USA, The tuf is priced at 260$ over there and the unify is 310$)

Thanks everyone for the feedback.

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I still use a HDD for storage. Simply because I have so many games, and I like to play all of them, there is no reasonable way to put them on an SSD. So I have a 1tb Patriot Viper NVMe system drive and I put 2 games on there due to load time, GTA V and Red Dead 2. Those games load insanely slow from a HDD (I tested 15 mins load times from HDD, 7 mins from SATA SSD, and 2 mins from NVMe, same for both games). All my other games are on a 8tb Seagate NAS drive. If I were to buy a bunch of SSDs and put them in RAID, to get enough to hold all my games it would probably double the overall cost of my system from ~$2000 to $4000.

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One last question my dudes , is the EVGA xc gaming 2080 super worth it over the EVGA black gaming 2080 super ( difference is 40$)

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I can recommend the Patriot VPN100 too, as fast pcie 3.0 one
Sata for m.2 , unsure ~ less cables but it takes away that fast m.2 slot for . . . nothing ^^
Rams are a great choice and this board is actually amazing - i wonder where they cut corners / PCB quality or something else
As VRMs are frankly said , amazing

EVGA vs MSI gaming trio 2080SP ~ unsure
I'd probably take the MSI because of the size and its known that these cards do OC well
While the EVGA one may still be a good GDDR6 OCer, like the Gaming Trio X - but maybe a worse chip OCer / soo unsure here
PSU is top ~ not because of efficiency (well too) but also because of lower ripple - i wonder if you can increase the size of it 700Wish / as a 2080SP is known to pull 250-300W (up to OC in the 300W range) soo 700W (if existing and cheap) would be hitting a good efficiency range, 750 too but that likely is then too expensive

There is not rly much to complain except the AIO
Copper , alluminium mixes are just bad ~ good tower coolers like the black noctua or thermalrights new true spirit would hold better
For AIOs - IF you're gonna go that path / then at least grab ones with full copper elements ~ Alphacool Eisbaer LT360/240 (which you can expand) or the Swifttech H240/H360 X3
Both of them are expandable and can get you into the custom loop therithory - not cheaping out with bad OEM AIOs who will oxidize and lose cooling perf in the range of 6-18months

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Quote: Originally Posted by Awsan View Post
One last question my dudes , is the EVGA xc gaming 2080 super worth it over the EVGA black gaming 2080 super ( difference is 40$)

you are paying extra $ for RGB + metal blackplate. You be the judge. IMO, no.

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Hey everyone a quick update as my shipping adventure is crumbling in-front of my eyes I had to make a quick changes:

Gonna downgrade the psu to Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750 Gold, changing the WD blue 2tb to an intel 660p 2tb and my biggest problem right now is the GPU, I found two zotac models that are available locally for the same price of the EVGA black the problem is I can't find any info about them online.

Zotac AMP CORE RGB (What is the difference between this and the AMP EXTREME?)
Zotac triple fan 2080 super

Or should I just stick with the EVGA black.

Thanks a lot everyone for all the help


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MSI unify
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1tb Sabrent
2tb 660p
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k95 platinum for $100 was a great deal
G402 for $18 was even a greater deal (Waiting for the D)
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Modi 3 + JDS atom + Beyer Custom studio (EDM mostly)
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Hey everyone a quick update as my shipping adventure is crumbling in-front of my eyes I had to make a quick changes:

Gonna downgrade the psu to Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750 Gold, changing the WD blue 2tb to an intel 660p 2tb and my biggest problem right now is the GPU, I found two zotac models that are available locally for the same price of the EVGA black the problem is I can't find any info about them online.

Zotac AMP CORE RGB (What is the difference between this and the AMP EXTREME?)
Zotac triple fan 2080 super

Or should I just stick with the EVGA black.

Thanks a lot everyone for all the help


Final build:
3950x
MSI unify
Viper steel 4400mhz 16gb
GPU???
NH-d15 chromax black
750w focus plus gold
1tb Sabrent
2tb 660p
case (Locally sourced)
Monitor (Gonna use my old 24gm77 for now)
k95 platinum for $100 was a great deal
G402 for $18 was even a greater deal (Waiting for the D)
AD900x + Modmic 5 for gaming (Mostly on board audio, might route through stack)
Modi 3 + JDS atom + Beyer Custom studio (EDM mostly)
TFZ T2 Galaxy (On the go + OP7P) [No portable amp/dac yet, although the OP7P is actually amazing for driving a lot of stuff]
Intel 660P is QLC, not fast for sustained workloads or very durable (compared to TLC, etc.).



AMP Extreme is probably clocked higher. You should be able to tell from the product pages on their website. I'd get the triple fan or something new in box like the EVGA, though EVGA's customer support outside the US doesn't have the best reputation, if that matters to you.

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