Upgrade 2020 - Oldschool PROSUMER Request - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community
Forum Jump: 

Upgrade 2020 - Oldschool PROSUMER Request

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-08-2020, 05:23 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
GanjaSMK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 9,688
Rep: 627 (Unique: 467)
Upgrade 2020 - Oldschool PROSUMER Request

Two Simple questions:

1. Should I upgrade my current hardware for Windows 10?
2. If I should upgrade, should I just buy a pre-built rig at this point in hardware/offerings from companies?

I am upgrading for no reason other than to Windows 10 for future decades worth of software/platform. Seeing as how my system performs nominally or better with current setup I question whether I need hardware upgrades or not.

PC Usage:

Games = 1-4 hours a week if that
Software = runs pletny fast
Editing/Photo/Video - light at best usage

System Specs:

i7-960 @ 4.1Ghz (Bloomfield)
ASUS Rampage III Formula x58 Mobo
16GB RAM (clocked @ 1666 x triple channel, Samsung Miracle RAM from the era)
XFX RX480 OC 8GB
1GB Samsung EVO SSD + fast 6GB drives/ 3GB SATA drives
Windows 7 (fully updated)

On second question (should I buy pre-built):

1. I don't have nearly as much time as I used to with my current job / current company growth mode (heavy/fast paced and I'm lead person on this)
2. I have not bought a pre-built PC since 1990 and hadn't expected to since 2004; however I'm older now (much) and question offerings to be pretty good in comparison (much better than 1999-2009).

@drbaltazar posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave12 
I like your posts. Every time I see one I read it multiple times trying to discern meaning, ultimately failing, but enjoying the experience.
biggrin.gif
GanjaSMK is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-08-2020, 05:30 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Paradigm Shifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,905
Rep: 252 (Unique: 201)
Other than the fact that Windows 7 hits official EOL on 18th January, if you don't have much time for it and that works fine... I really wouldn't bother. Unless you're after power efficiency savings.

One question. Triple channel with 16GB of RAM?


Paradigm Shifter is offline  
post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-08-2020, 05:36 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
GanjaSMK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 9,688
Rep: 627 (Unique: 467)
Quote: Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter View Post
One question. Triple channel with 16GB of RAM?
Yessir! The Rampage III offers 4 of 6 DIMM sockets in Triple Channel
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Triple Channel.PNG
Views:	3
Size:	52.3 KB
ID:	317484  


@drbaltazar posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave12 
I like your posts. Every time I see one I read it multiple times trying to discern meaning, ultimately failing, but enjoying the experience.
biggrin.gif
GanjaSMK is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 05:46 AM
New to Overclock.net
 
Paradigm Shifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,905
Rep: 252 (Unique: 201)
Quote: Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post
Yessir! The Rampage III offers 4 of 6 DIMM sockets in Triple Channel
Wow... that's rather impressive! Thank you for that.


Paradigm Shifter is offline  
post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 05:44 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
GanjaSMK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 9,688
Rep: 627 (Unique: 467)
Haha, I hope that didn't come off the wrong way - I tend to try and be matter of fact (per my job and it permeates my everything else).

Being matter of fact tends to rub people the wrong way, apologies if so.

Anyways I think you're probably right. Like anyone else I'm curious about security sticking to Windows 7 and thinking I should only purchase a Win 10 Pro license and upgrade clean install. Curious about Bloomfield support with Win 10 though - I was under the impression that certain security based features of Win 10 aren't applicable with legacy hardware.

Anyone know the real ins/outs of all that? ????

@drbaltazar posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave12 
I like your posts. Every time I see one I read it multiple times trying to discern meaning, ultimately failing, but enjoying the experience.
biggrin.gif
GanjaSMK is offline  
post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 05:54 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Schmuckley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: FL
Posts: 14,612
Rep: 705 (Unique: 564)
Geez! Yeah, upgrade! 1366 was a long time ago! You running a 5870, too?

OIC, modern AMD card.

IPC is your problem.

Ripjaws V 3000+ and some Ryzen love is what I recommend. Asus or GB board.

Idk, maybe Biostar if they make a 570!

That 5700xt is good!

Stick to Win7.

x79 would do you some justice..Xeeon 1660V2? are like $140 last I checked and are higher binned 4930Ks.

Like this..

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-70-ghz.html

If you wanna be able to run XP

AMD AFAIK does not run XP but has better performance.

I use 4790K for XP.

All x79 gear is gone!

Last edited by Schmuckley; 01-09-2020 at 06:04 PM.
Schmuckley is offline  
post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 06:04 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
GanjaSMK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 9,688
Rep: 627 (Unique: 467)
Quote: Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post
Geez! Yeah, upgrade! 1366 was a long time ago! You running a 5870, too?
OIC, modern AMD card.
IPC is your problem.
Ripjaws V 3000+ and some Ryzen love is what I recommend. Asus or GB board.
Idk, maybe Biostar if they make a 570!
That 5700xt is good!
Stick to Win7.
x79 would do you some justice..x5650s? are like $140 last I checked and are higher binned 4930Ks.
Hmmm I mean it's tempting to upgrade but my usage doesn't *require* the upgrade! I'm not a fan of spending frivolous money. I've got the same low end phone since 2015; holds a charge and does what I need it to.

Same with the PC - runs everything I throw at it with ease and that includes any games I'm playing (modern or older).

So I'm really toying with (I guess) the security issue of Win7 post EOL - meaning, if I upgrade to Windows 10 - do the components I currently have subsist for security OR should I purchase new hardware that Win 10 provides features for. I think maybe my OP is slightly misleading. lol

Real question is this I guess - With Win7 being EOL and myself thinking I should move to Win10, do I keep the current hardware since it handles everything I need it to (objectively) OR do I *need* to upgrade the hardware for Win10 security compatibilities with more modern chipsets, etc??

@drbaltazar posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave12 
I like your posts. Every time I see one I read it multiple times trying to discern meaning, ultimately failing, but enjoying the experience.
biggrin.gif
GanjaSMK is offline  
post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 06:05 PM
OG AMD
 
Redwoodz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Silicon Valley
Posts: 8,586
Rep: 595 (Unique: 464)
NVME drives, USB3, new instruction sets etc and better memory performance. Ryzen2 and good RAM for around $450.

https://valid.x86.fr/cache/banner/4d8m5e-6.png
https://valid.x86.fr/cache/banner/bs72bx-6.png
AMD Athlon II 450 @4.74GHz http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2204588
AMD MaxxMemm Rankings
960T @ 4.6GHz http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2171450
RedwoodCustomPC
AM4
(6 items)
Redwoodz
(10 items)
Professional
(13 items)
CPU
Ryzen 5 2600
Motherboard
ASRock X470 Taichi
GPU
MSI RX570 Armor MKII 8GB
RAM
GSKill Trident Z D-die
RAM
TeamGroup Excalibur
Power Supply
GSKill Ripjaws PS850G
CPU
AMD FX Vishera 8350
Motherboard
ASRock Extreme 9 990FX
GPU
HIS X 7970 IceQ
RAM
Gskill Trident
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro
Power Supply
Seasonic SS-760XP
Cooling
TT Water 2.0
Monitor
Samsung Series 9 27"
Keyboard
Mionix Zibal
Mouse
Mionix 5000
CPU
Phenom II X6 1100t
Motherboard
MSI 890FX GD65
GPU
MSI Radeon HD5670
RAM
GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8
Hard Drive
WD Black 1TB SATA III
Optical Drive
Samsung BD
Power Supply
Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w
Cooling
Zalman 9900MAX
Case
Fractal Design R3
Operating System
Windows 7 64 Professional
Monitor
AOC 22" LED
Keyboard
Logitech
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB
▲ hide details ▲


Redwoodz is offline  
post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 06:07 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Schmuckley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: FL
Posts: 14,612
Rep: 705 (Unique: 564)
Quote: Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post
Hmmm I mean it's tempting to upgrade but my usage doesn't *require* the upgrade! I'm not a fan of spending frivolous money. I've got the same low end phone since 2015; holds a charge and does what I need it to.

Same with the PC - runs everything I throw at it with ease and that includes any games I'm playing (modern or older).

So I'm really toying with (I guess) the security issue of Win7 post EOL - meaning, if I upgrade to Windows 10 - do the components I currently have subsist for security OR should I purchase new hardware that Win 10 provides features for. I think maybe my OP is slightly misleading. lol

Real question is this I guess - With Win7 being EOL and myself thinking I should move to Win10, do I keep the current hardware since it handles everything I need it to (objectively) OR do I *need* to upgrade the hardware for Win10 security compatibilities with more modern chipsets, etc??

You don't need to, no. Win 10 is Microsoft's hat in the ring to datamine like the phones do. That is all.

Up to x79 does all that, too, and there is IPC increase. Plus it lets the Sammys stretch their legs. I ran @ 10-12-12-28-137 @ 2800 for a couple years.

Like I said, the most modern thing I has that runs all the old stuff is a 4790K.

What is that? Haswell? Broadwell?

Last edited by Schmuckley; 01-09-2020 at 06:10 PM.
Schmuckley is offline  
post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 06:11 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
GanjaSMK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 9,688
Rep: 627 (Unique: 467)
Quote: Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post
NVME drives, USB3, new instruction sets etc and better memory performance. Ryzen2 and good RAM for around $450.
*If* I upgrade it's definitely AMD/AMD this round.

It's still a question of whether I *need* to upgrade the hardware to support better security features of the OS (Win10) that may or may not be suited on this chipset... that's my real question. And purely out of narcissism in a computing sense.

I'm not after speed increases, I'm not after DX12, I'm not after NVMe support or USB3. In fact I still use eSATA for most data transfers beyond 500MB anyways, plus I have 2 (albeit older less speedy) USB3 ports on this platform.

@drbaltazar posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave12 
I like your posts. Every time I see one I read it multiple times trying to discern meaning, ultimately failing, but enjoying the experience.
biggrin.gif
GanjaSMK is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off