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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-09-2020, 09:59 AM - Thread Starter
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New rig laggy in windows and rebooting

I'm constructing a PC for a family member, parts include:

MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
Ryzen 5 3600
Sapphire 5700 XT Nitro
Gskill Ripjaw V F4-3200C16D-16GVGB
970 Evo M.2 MZ-V7E500BW
1TB WD black HDD
EVGA 600 BR 100-BR-0600-K1
Hardware : NZXT 510 + hyper512 CPU cooler + GPU brace

Put it all together last night, and installed windows on the 970 evo. Other than the mouse lookin a smidge sluggish during install, nothing was out of the ordinary last night. Booted into windows just fine and I shut it down for the night. Was gonna install some programs just now and then I started hitting the power cycle stuff, but only when trying to boot. And then eventually it wen't into a "detecting problems with your PC". I managed to get into windows, and things were just not right, it was stalling when opening applications, I tried to download the AMD drivers for the GPU and during extraction it failed to extract. At least it doesn't seem to manually restart when in windows, only when first booting.

The cpu auto voltage for the 3600 is 1.46, and I had to set speed for memory manually as it wanted to run them at 2100 instead of 3200.
I am running memtest86 as I write this, but I would like some suggestions as what I should do next if memory comes back clean.

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The PSU for one is terrible and should be returned

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Yes, in hindsight there was a few purchasing mistakes and I realize for the money it was a poor choice when more efficient and modular PSUs are available for only a few bucks more. Bang for buck aside, I don't think the PSU would be causing the issues I'm currently experiencing so long as the power delivery is stable.

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Its going to hold the rest of the system back and it cant even do its full rated wattage at more than 30c which is pathetic and everything else on the market is rated for 40-50c
As for the power delivery i would not trust that thing to power a toaster

It might not the the problem but you really should send it back its terrible and the Corsair CX550M would have been a much better option and looking on newegg its only $10 more
Edit: i am not trying to be rude if it sounds like that i am just trying to help you

The Samsung 970 by the way is way overpriced and a Corsair Force MP510 or the PNY XLR8 would have been just as fast and way cheaper so you overspent on the SSD and underspent on the PSU
Othewise its a good system

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Its going to hold the rest of the system back and it cant even do its full rated wattage at more than 30c which is pathetic
As for the power delivery i would not trust that thing to power a toaster

It might not the the problem but you really should send it back its terrible and the Corsair CX550M would have been a much better option

That is quite concerning. I'll be swapping it then. Since you pointed me to the situation I did a PSU calculator and it recommends at least a 500W psu, 600W with 80% efficiency does seem to be pushing it.

Edit: You don't sound rude at all, straight facts are facts. I just gota own it.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Jaggar View Post
That is quite concerning. I'll be swapping it then. Since you pointed me to the situation I did a PSU calculator and it recommends at least a 500W psu, 600W with 80% efficiency does seem to be pushing it.

Edit: You don't sound rude at all, straight facts are facts. I just gota own it.
All the PSU calculators will overstate numbers by 28% so if they say 500 watt they mean 360 watts
The reason for that is they are talking about peak numbers not continuous numbers and its to cover thier butts in case someone buy an el cheap peak rated PSU

A 550 watt is more than enough power as long as you are not going nuts with overclocking on both the CPU and GPU and maxing it all the time
Edit: you can buy a 650 watt if that makes you feel better

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Are the Thermaltake smart series any good? Amazon has same day delivery for PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W, Claims 700W continuous. Non modular but that's not terribly critical, just wanted this system completely done and delivered this weekend.

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Are the Thermaltake smart series any good? Amazon has same day delivery for PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W, Claims 700W continuous. Non modular but that's not terribly critical, just wanted this system completely done and delivered this weekend.
They can be hit or miss but since they re-use the same names over and over again you can get something god awful or just okey you never know
If you can live with something non modular there is the Seasonic S12III

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I followed your suggestion and replaced the PSU with a corsair white label CX-M v2 model. I am still experiencing some issues.

Some small issues I consistently run into no matter how many times i reinstall windows/drivers:

1) My USB wifi adapter drops packets every couple of seconds only on this machine. Ethernet resolves this.

2) Some USB file transfers fail with the message "not enough memory to complete the operation", using specific USB ports at the top of the IO resolve this issue.

3) Windows Menu refuses to open from time to time.

4) Machine restarts when in game for only a few minutes, but not when using Furmark. I swapped the 5700XT with my personal GTX 1080 and the machine hasn't shut down yet but still experiences the first two USB related issues. Seems stable in game.

I'm putting the 5700XT in my rig now to see if I can crash it in my own rig and will update soon.

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Did you install the mobo's chipset drivers?

Did you check the Device Manager to make sure everything was being recognized properly?

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