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post #21 of 1345 (permalink) Old 01-24-2020, 10:23 AM
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Anyone try this on a Gigabyte board? Mine didn't work, it freaked out but went in some sort of protection mode. ST only hit 4ghz, multicore was 3.5ghz.
Tried and got similar issues with a 3800x on Aorus Master, BIOS version F11.
No Windows boot at EDC=1, multicore 4.4 but only first CCD, 2nd at 3.5. ST hits at 4.4 GHz.
In general terrible performance.

I got protection mode with shutdown and BIOS corruption once I disabled Turbo mode.

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Tried and got similar issues with a 3800x on Aorus Master, BIOS version F11.
No Windows boot at EDC=1, multicore 4.4 but only first CCD, 2nd at 3.5. ST hits at 4.4 GHz.
In general terrible performance.

I got protection mode with shutdown and BIOS corruption once I disabled Turbo mode.

I had performance issues too but it runs perfectly after i deactivated AMD cool & quiet. Also 3800x Aorus Master.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ManniX-ITA View Post
Tried and got similar issues with a 3800x on Aorus Master, BIOS version F11.
No Windows boot at EDC=1, multicore 4.4 but only first CCD, 2nd at 3.5. ST hits at 4.4 GHz.
In general terrible performance.

I got protection mode with shutdown and BIOS corruption once I disabled Turbo mode.
Did you disable global c-states and try to boot with vcore on auto or normal? I got the windows corruption notice the first time I tried this tweak because I forgot that I had a -0.1 offset programmed for vcore. It's been fine ever since on auto voltage.
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I see you are saying single thread scores are low with the tweak in Cinbench20 at EDC1. Did you actually try a different Windows 10 powerplan.

I suggest Ultimate Power plan vs using (which is a great power plan)1usmus power plan or power saver plans.

My 3800x just setting EDC 1 in BIOS and scaler 10x and nothing else Cinebench20 still 530 score with Ultimate power plan but power saver plans I have seen 478.Try it out if you want or anyone.I suggest back to back runs.

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Works like a charm on my Unify with 3800X. Similar multicore performance as manual OC and same nice low temps with a slight offset. Single core also better than before. Great find!
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Here is a ~balanced setting~ for my 3800X sample for Cinebench R20.

EDC 10
scalar 10x
LLC LOW
cpu voltage offset -0.03125V

Single thread is still throttling but it's not horrible like EDC set to 1.
EDC 11 could be better for single thread but I've not managed to get as good multi with my sample yet.

Multi-thread scores are about equal to manual 4.400Ghz OC.

My 3800x was also throttling. Just deactivate AMD cool and quiet and it should have better performance in single and multicore loads. At least thats how i fixed my broken single scores in geekbench/userbench. Had 1313 geekbench single score before this tweak...750 with the tweak and AMD C&Q still active...and now almost 1400 with C&Q deactivated! No Offset changes, no LLC changes, nothing...just skalar to 10 and lets goooo!

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Quote: Originally Posted by gerardfraser View Post
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I see you are saying single thread scores are low with the tweak in Cinbench20 at EDC1. Did you actually try a different Windows 10 powerplan.

I suggest Ultimate Power plan vs using (which is a great power plan)1usmus power plan or power saver plans.

My 3800x just setting EDC 1 in BIOS and scaler 10x and nothing else Cinebench20 still 530 score with Ultimate power plan but power saver plans I have seen 478.Try it out if you want or anyone.I suggest back to back runs.
Thanks for the tip about the Windows Ultimate power plan

I had forgotten that thing existed, it wasn't available for me so I had to go and add it back into the settings.

AMD Ryzen Balanced & AMD Ryzen High Performance didn't work optimal with their throttling issues. Ultimate fixes it!

If you don't have the Ultimate power plan

Run this command in CMD with administrator settings to add it to your options.
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powercfg -duplicatescheme e9a42b02-d5df-448d-aa00-03f14749eb61

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How does pbo alloy the boost is it multi based or clock based? If we change the bclk to 110 can that add 10% clocks if pbo changes the multi only?

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How does pbo alloy the boost is it multi based or clock based? If we change the bclk to 110 can that add 10% clocks if pbo changes the multi only?
BCLK is added on-top but the X570 chipset has issues with BCLK. SATA drop out ~101BCLK on Gigabyte Xtreme. Also USB etc can get issues but can be fixed eventually with higher voltages for SoC.

For BCLK I prefer X470 as you can at least have SATA still available with BCLK OC. But I've myself not tested my Ryzen 3000 on the X470 board I have to see how it fares.

If only using .M2 drives BCLK can be useful on X570. They don't drop out as easily.

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