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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-31-2020, 02:27 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by K1ll3rGreen View Post
Thank you for the tip on power supply, looking at current draw numbers are concerning if this ps really only puts out 300w-ish after being heat soaked and running all day.



40 minutes into the burn test, 68c on package 51c/28c on other nodes. Should I be concerned?
Like i said its only rated for its wattage at 30c where almost everything on the market is rated for 50c with some lower end models rated at 40c
30c is what bargain bin super budget units are rated for so yes its not a 450 watt

Around 70c on the CPU is just meh its not dangerous but its not all that fantastic either

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My ram is micron e-die 2x8 1R, it's stable at 3200 running cl16-18-18-36 factory timings and i ran 3400 at the same clocks past few days off a fresh cmos with only 1 issue(mouse randomly disconnected shut off, took some fiddling to get it back not sure if that was software errors but it has only done this once before and while OC'ing ram.)
Can you tell me what the sweet spot is to lock my cpu and ram mhz at? The other sticks i have are hynix and were purchased over a year later, will not post past 2933 mhz but "sometimes" runs way tighter timings.
E die? I think it's better than trash b die, maybe you can hit c16 3466, my tip is to download and use Ryzen Dram Calculator. For the cpu idk, 4.1/4.2 should be top.

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Where the smarties at.....? I feel like my questions are simple enough, tired of 'googling' and reading the same copy and paste filth on every single site. Can anyone help?



Update: Started messing around with the FID//DID settings this morning for overclocking, as much as I've research the matter still really not understanding what's going on here. I've achieved a higher boost OC on cpu up to 4.3 ghz, averaging around 4ghz and temps have been stable, 3-5c cooler, also voltage on cpu is sitting around 1.31v on full load so that's pretty neat. Using the auto settings and bumping clock to same speed(4ghz) yielded much higher temps, not properly idling and 1.35+v on the core also randomly would boost as high as 4.6ghz.


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Like i said its only rated for its wattage at 30c where almost everything on the market is rated for 50c with a some lower end models rated at 40c
30c is what bargain bin super budget units are rated for so yes its not a 450 watt

Around 70c on the CPU is just meh its not dangerous but its not all that fantastic either
How about 65c? That's full load temp after an hour tho, won't really be a factor for what I do hopefully.



Thanks again, as said you are definitely right on the power supply. Found the limit this morning when I added a slight OC on gfx card and it shut down the system right after starting OCCT burn test. Guess that'll be the first upgrade..

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E die? I think it's better than trash b die, maybe you can hit c16 3466, my tip is to download and use Ryzen Dram Calculator. For the cpu idk, 4.1/4.2 should be top.



There's something wrong with that calculator, for my system anyways the numbers being spit out are not stable. Sticking with XMP timings of my ram at 3000mhz, I've pushed to 3466 but didn't run it long as I could clearly see it was bottlenecking my cpu at its auto setting of 3400mhz.


Yea it's E-die, purchased back in 2018 when I got the pc. Silicon lottery or whatever bs they call it. I tried to push it to 3600 earlier, wouldn't post at 1.35v but that's all good. no extra power to spare anyways,

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How about 65c? That's full load temp after an hour tho, won't really be a factor for what I do hopefully.



Thanks again, as said you are definitely right on the power supply. Found the limit this morning when I added a slight OC on gfx card and it shut down the system right after starting OCCT burn test. Guess that'll be the first upgrade..
65c is around what i get with a non overclocked 3700x and a NH-U12S that has run all day doing work
Its not a super high temp but its not great either just meh could be better but also worse

As for the PSU yes replace that either with a Seasonc Focus Plus GX or a Fractal Design Ion+

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65c is around what i get with a non overclocked 3700x and a NH-U12S that has run all day doing work
Its not a super high temp but its not great either just meh could be better but also worse

As for the PSU yes replace that either with a Seasonc Focus Plus GX or a Fractal Design Ion+

Might just keep the system as is and build something new around a good supply like those, quite pleased with current performance right now and having such a terrible psu keeps the power bill lower right? haha..


Currently working on undervolting//overclocking the gpu, maybe more gains can be had by reducing its draw on the system.

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Doh! OCing that GPU and CPU with that PSU be scary! I say don't do it! At best it will shut down. We won't mention the worst..

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Doh! OCing that GPU and CPU with that PSU be scary! I say don't do it! At best it will shut down. We won't mention the worst..

I learned that the hard way. Learn from my mistakes!

WAIT, YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THE MISTAKES!!! Do tell what the worst is tho, so far it just shuts down upon reaching power limits and I am pushing nothing ( voltage wise anyways ) beyond rated specs. Take for instance the ram, board is QVL'd to push some sticks @1.45 volts and near 4000mhz so I should be plenty safe running 1.35v @ 3200 for everyday use right? What exactly is this PSU possibly going to do beyond losing the ability to send enough electrical pixies and shutting itself down?

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The fail safes on cheap PSU´s dont always work the first EVGA B3´s that came on the market would blow up when going out of specs instead of shutting down because fail safes where not working
At least they seem to be working on yours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG0GUdNizs0

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