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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-04-2020, 02:20 PM - Thread Starter
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New Build - Looking for suggestions to improve performance

Hello, I haven't built a new PC in some time. Just put together this build and I haven't done anything to it besides updating all the drivers and setting everything to its out of the box default performance.

I am looking for suggestions on what to do first to increase my overall performance of the components. Its mainly used for gaming so that would be the focus for performance. I'm not looking for insane overclocking, just enough to squeeze out those FPS and some more speed if possible.

Board: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK (Socket AM4) USB 3.1 Gen 1 AMD
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 Six-Core 3.6 GHz
GPU:EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 XC Ultra Gaming 6GB GDDR6
RAM: CORSAIR - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2PK 16GB) 2.4GHz PC4-19200 DDR4 DIMM Unbuffered Non-ECC
SSD: Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 250GB Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology
HD: WD - Mainstream 2TB Internal Serial ATA
PSU: EVGA - 700W ATX12V /EPS12V 80 Plus Bronze (great deal from a friend)


Any suggestions on what to do would be extremely helpful. I see a lot of new software is out there for overclocking by EVGA/MSI/AMD etc but have not used any of the softerware as of yet.

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-04-2020, 02:52 PM
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if it's for gaming you don't need 32GB of RAM.

even if you do need 32GB of RAM, don't use DDR4 2400 on Ryzen.

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What ram qoul you suggest then? I do video editing sometimes.
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The PSU is not as terrible as the lower wattage versions but its still not all that good so while you got a good deal on it you should not that its the worst part of the PC

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Don't install AMD's SATA drivers. This is important as they are buggy at present and cause all sorts of performance issues.

Next, like mentioned above you will want higher speed memory. Pick one on this website - https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

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Thanks.

Which one of these qould be the better choice?

CORSAIR - VENGEANCE LPX Series 16GB (2PK 8GB) 3.0GHz DDR4 Desktop Memory - Black
Model:CMK16GX4M2B3000C15SKU

Or

CORSAIR - Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2PK 8GB) 3.2GHz PC4-25600 DDR4 DIMM Unbuffered Non-ECC Desktop Memory Kit with RGB Lighting - Black
Model:CMW16GX4M2C3200C16

Qould i be noticing a difference from current RAM?
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If you can afford, ryzen cpu likes higher frequency ram, on those two I pick the later.


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How about a more realistic answer.

Ryzen 3xxx likes ram speed because it allows higher Infinity Fabric (IF) clocks. 3600mhz is about right and works on basically every cpu in the series even if you lose the silicon lottery.

But, 3200 is plenty for most people. the performance difference for the Ryzen 3600 is low for their use case. Gaming will have very little impact and your GPU will be more of a limit than your RAM. For video editing, yes, there will be some slow down...but its more impacted by the core count than your RAM. CAS 14-14-14-14 by GSkill is pretty outstanding. But, its far more expensive and again, performance improvement will be light. Can easily find 15-15-15-15 by GSkill and save quite a bit of money for basically no change.

Quantity of RAM is up to you and what games you play. Some dont need more than 4GB, some need more than 16GB. A general rule is worthless other than 16 is enough for most and cheap enough its pointless to have less.

If you want to improve gaming performance, spend more on a GPU. If you want more processing power, more CPU cores. The 3700x is outstanding and increased price to 3800x is questionable for gains.

The real performance boost that will be obvious to you as the user, change out the 2tb HD for an SSD. Your secondary file system will benefit as all your files will be on that drive. Load times will be greatly improved. Normal HD are great for bulk storage, movies, music, etc. Active storage (games, programs, etc) should now be on SSD. Even a 1TB SSD with a 2TB HD would be a good option.

My honest opinion though: OS on a 2.5" SSD (250gb) and active storage on the NVME (500GB or higher). Yes, boot will be 2 seconds slower, but everything else after boot will be loading far far faster. I do this on my personal systems and have for multiple years. Nothing on the OS drive really needs that bandwidth increase. Games and programs...they can use it more often.

Hope that helps more than unjustified advise that is common here.

Edit: forgot to mention that I have an MSI 470 with a 3900x. Their bios updates are questionable and often make problems worse. I cant use their newest on my board as it fails to function as needed. Some refuse overclock settings and the one I currently have will give mem overclock failed warnings on cold boots for anything but XMP, but I can just go to the bios without dropping overclock and reboot and runs flawlessly. I like MSI, but cant recommend them for 3xxx chips. Probably better off with a 5xx board from Gigabyte.

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Id probably suggest Crucial sport LT's with "aes" in the product number at .. 3000mhz, should OC easy to 3600, and theyre fairly cheap usually

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